Is there a God, and other discussions with an atheist

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I would like to hear peoples thoughts on this. I am an atheist, i believe there is no God. however oddly enough i believe in Jesus, if you read what he said and have some understanding of the origins of Christianity, it seems apparent that while he wasn't magic, he was a fairly level headed dude, and a hippie. think about it, he wandered around in sandals with his friends and talked about peace and love.

On another note which god do you subscribe to. throughout history there have been a lot, and all were considered equally valid in their time as any is now. (personally i think the Greek pantheon would make for a great high school drama)

(on a personal not i am not one of those pushy atheist, i think it is great to believe in something higher then yourself. I just want an interesting discussion, with reasonable people)

I am a God. I know many Gods. I think one is named sometimes Saturn, Time, or some things like that, and there's a painting of him eating some of his children, so I wonder if I'm metaphorically safe here trying to kill time, while others are just trying to kill time before time kills them.

You must have already resolved Pascal's Wager, so I will ask of you the numerical resolution of Saint Petersburg's Wager, since as a God, I know there is no "fair coin" of chance. I know the God Infinity, and he tells me that for a mere mortal both wagers are worth an infinite amount, but he sometimes scares Saturn too (I'm no braggart tonight).

If another wandered around in sandals with his friends and talked about peace and love, can you verify who paid for the drinks in the scenario at books-dot-google with the search for the book with "Skinner particulars dice drinks" if the Gods of Copyrights allow such? For this instant: http://www.google.com/search?q=Skinner+ ... =bks&tbo=1

Then with taints of absolute knowledge, can just any higher God exploit the Monty Hall Paradox to certainty with infinity?

Tadzio

Belief always plays a role with unanswerable questions.

You don't believe in Jesus then, you like the ideals attribued to Jesus in the gospels.

They are ok to me. Although they can get messiedly unrealistic and silly at times. Some parables are just BS, but no one is perfect, for sure Socrates wasn't, so why should Jesus be?

I am a Theist, yet I know that there is no possible way that I can prove that God exists.

I believe that a baby was born in Bethlehem, was named Jesus (or Immanuel), grew to be a man, took up an itinerant ministry, preached for peace and fellowship, preached against religious hypocrisy, was framed by the religious leaders for crimes he did not commit, was crucified by the occupying Roman army, and was buried the same day of His death.

I also believe that maybe some of the rest of the stories about this man Jesus were at least partially made up (if not fully exaggerated) by His followers.

I do wish there was some way to settle this whole "Jesus Thing" once and for all, and to one side's favor or the other. A miracle or two would be nice ...

As for me and my house, we try to do the most good, for the most people we meet, and as often as possible.

I believe in God I am a christian how ever I will only talk about God and my religion with other Christians why would I waste my time talking about it with some one who doesn't believe why would a non believer ask a person that believes in God why they believe in God

Its possible that Jesus was real, and that he was a mortal intinerat teacher/philosopher like Buddha, or Confucius who like those two started a movement.

Its possible that the virgin birth and reserrection stories were hood ornaments stuck onto his biography by subsequent generations of disciples to help market the movement. There were plenty of Gods to compete with back then and many Egyptian, Greek, and other dieties had had virgin births or regularly died and resurrected with the seasons. So those memes already existed.


But though its perfectly possible - this theory that Jesus was wise but mortal is atleast as unpalatable to orthodox christians as rejecting christ altogether-if not more so. So expect flack from both sides- but especially from orthodox christians.you're strolling next to a third rail here.

Is it logically possible for a creator-god to exist? Probably. Has it been established factually? Absolutely not! There is not a smidgin of empirical evidence to support the existence of God. Neither has there been any evidence to absolutely disprove it.

ruveyn

I'm an atheist and I don't have anything I can give God credit for yet. It's that simple. I'm a seeing-is-believing type of guy and the fact that our minds like to play tricks on us is a good reason to stick to that school of thought. Consistency is the only reliable way to determine truth.

another few thoughts...

supposing there is a god, and he created us in his image, he must be at least as curious as we are, as doubtful as we are, and flawed as we are. Also, if he created us in his image doesn't that mean he wanted colleagues and not subordinates.

and as for the argument that just because there is no proof against his existence, he may still exist. Well, while that sounds nice, the same argument can be used for leprechauns, unicorns, and every other god there ever was.

(Again i don't mean to be inflammatory, i simply would like to hear interesting arguments.)