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Vexcalibur
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26 Oct 2011, 9:00 am

Even if god told you to?

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Oh god, I hate/respect SMBC so much.


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26 Oct 2011, 9:09 am

Adam and Steve lol



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26 Oct 2011, 1:01 pm

I have a thought, but I'm pretty sure it's only appropriate for the Adult forum.


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26 Oct 2011, 6:32 pm

Thats the least of the problems in Genisis.

So God tweeked Adam's DNA when he remodeled the rib. Turned his Y chomosome into an X chromosome turning Eve into a female. And since the bible was written before watson and crick they didnt bother to explain that part to the audience of that time and left that out of the BIble.

BFD!

But even so that means that Adam and Eve were identical twins of the opposite sex.
Thats still kinda yucky. Boneing your own twin sister!

Okay-maybe God did more than give Eve an extra X chromosome. Maybe he tweeked her whole genome- alterted it by a tiny amount- so that the two were the genetic equivalent of unrelated mambers of the same species- like most spouses.

But even then- well they had a flock of kids. But those kids had to mate (for us all to be here). And since they were the only humans on the planet at the time that means we are all the products of a bunch of siblings getting it on. So that means that are all inbred White trash like the banjo playing kid in Deliverence! Actually that could explain alot.



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26 Oct 2011, 6:33 pm

:o that explains the boy-fucking!


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27 Oct 2011, 1:19 am

Where do I sign up for a clone?



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01 Nov 2011, 9:47 pm

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01 Nov 2011, 10:24 pm

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The last two minutes of this video really succinctly illustrate the concept.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8WogfApByQ[/youtube]


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02 Nov 2011, 3:14 am

naturalplastic wrote:
Thats the least of the problems in Genisis.

So God tweeked Adam's DNA when he remodeled the rib. Turned his Y chomosome into an X chromosome turning Eve into a female. And since the bible was written before watson and crick they didnt bother to explain that part to the audience of that time and left that out of the BIble.

BFD!

But even so that means that Adam and Eve were identical twins of the opposite sex.
Thats still kinda yucky. Boneing your own twin sister!

Okay-maybe God did more than give Eve an extra X chromosome. Maybe he tweeked her whole genome- alterted it by a tiny amount- so that the two were the genetic equivalent of unrelated mambers of the same species- like most spouses.

But even then- well they had a flock of kids. But those kids had to mate (for us all to be here). And since they were the only humans on the planet at the time that means we are all the products of a bunch of siblings getting it on. So that means that are all inbred White trash like the banjo playing kid in Deliverence! Actually that could explain alot.



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yes it is normative for the western mind to deconstruct it in that way but the point of the story is that earth (adam) and life (eve) got together and began the human race. it is a touching creation story, considering that there are very few creation stories from this part of the world over the course of thousands of years that ever included the creation of woman.

From earth came life, and earth and life created the human species.


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03 Nov 2011, 11:45 pm

MarketAndChurch wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
Thats the least of the problems in Genisis.

So God tweeked Adam's DNA when he remodeled the rib. Turned his Y chomosome into an X chromosome turning Eve into a female. And since the bible was written before watson and crick they didnt bother to explain that part to the audience of that time and left that out of the BIble.

BFD!

But even so that means that Adam and Eve were identical twins of the opposite sex.
Thats still kinda yucky. Boneing your own twin sister!

Okay-maybe God did more than give Eve an extra X chromosome. Maybe he tweeked her whole genome- alterted it by a tiny amount- so that the two were the genetic equivalent of unrelated mambers of the same species- like most spouses.

But even then- well they had a flock of kids. But those kids had to mate (for us all to be here). And since they were the only humans on the planet at the time that means we are all the products of a bunch of siblings getting it on. So that means that are all inbred White trash like the banjo playing kid in Deliverence! Actually that could explain alot.



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yes it is normative for the western mind to deconstruct it in that way but the point of the story is that earth (adam) and life (eve) got together and began the human race. it is a touching creation story, considering that there are very few creation stories from this part of the world over the course of thousands of years that ever included the creation of woman.

From earth came life, and earth and life created the human species.


Tell that to the modern Fundies who insist on taking Genisis absolutely litereally!

So you're saying in essence that Genisis is not a true story, but it is a story that contains truth.

How dare you use that much common sense!

Fundie dont like that!

When you take it that way it is a beautiful- but still baffling story.

Ironically- among the many themes the tale seems to allude too is-evolution!

Like you said: life and earth, spawned the human race.

God made Adam and Eve out of mud ( nonliving matter through implied but not stated intermediate steps became living humans).

And adam and eve orignally lived in a world without either death or sex.
In other words adam and eve lived like one celled microbes still live today- as immortal cells reproducing by fission that never die (unless eaten by ameboes).

For billions of years our ancestor were also immortal asexual microbes.

The Fall could be an eerie racial memory of the Cambrian Explosion 600 million years ago when our ancestors became multicellular and were forced to both reproduce sexually and to become mortal ( ie to simulaneouly invent both sex and death) when they vaulted from being paramecium to being jellyfish.

Or it could be taken as a racial memory of a more recent, but still distant(from the bronze age when the story was written) past, when humans made the transformation from being hunter-gatherers to pushing plows for a living.

In the Garden of Eden we lived as part of nature in the food chain with other wild organisms, after the fall we were forced to subdue nature by exploiting domesticated plants and animals to live. And that forced us to have to put up with high population densities,infectious diseases, class stratification and having other humans tell us what to do.

So was God planting lessons about evolution into Genisis?

Or is the story the product of some species wide racial memories and archtypes that also crop up in other myths?

Or Im I just projecting.

Or is the story itsself a rorshach print into which anyone can project anything?



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04 Nov 2011, 1:04 am

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Flaw in your argument is Jesus came back from the dead.



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04 Nov 2011, 1:06 am

Inuyasha wrote:
Flaw in your argument is Jesus came back from the dead.


JESUS WAS A ZOMBIE!! !!

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04 Nov 2011, 6:39 am

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Flaw in your argument is Jesus came back from the dead.
And yet it still saves only one lucky fraction of humans.


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04 Nov 2011, 8:34 am

naturalplastic wrote:
Thats the least of the problems in Genisis.

So God tweeked Adam's DNA when he remodeled the rib. Turned his Y chomosome into an X chromosome turning Eve into a female. And since the bible was written before watson and crick they didnt bother to explain that part to the audience of that time and left that out of the BIble.

BFD!

But even so that means that Adam and Eve were identical twins of the opposite sex.
Thats still kinda yucky. Boneing your own twin sister!

Well as anyone can tell you being inbred as a great way to create extreme genetic mutation. Not that I approve of the practice.

Someday I'll have my own page on suspiciously specific denial on TvTropes.



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04 Nov 2011, 8:36 am

Master_Pedant wrote:
Vexcalibur wrote:
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The last two minutes of this video really succinctly illustrate the concept.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8WogfApByQ[/youtube]

What video?



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04 Nov 2011, 9:43 am

Gedrene wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
Thats the least of the problems in Genisis.

So God tweeked Adam's DNA when he remodeled the rib. Turned his Y chomosome into an X chromosome turning Eve into a female. And since the bible was written before watson and crick they didnt bother to explain that part to the audience of that time and left that out of the BIble.

BFD!

But even so that means that Adam and Eve were identical twins of the opposite sex.
Thats still kinda yucky. Boneing your own twin sister!

Well as anyone can tell you being inbred as a great way to create extreme genetic mutation. Not that I approve of the practice.

Someday I'll have my own page on suspiciously specific denial on TvTropes.


you're talkng about building a champion breed by taking a mutation and breeding it true and taking to an extreme.

So you're saying that God was hopeing to win a blue ribbon in the human equivalent of a dog show by accentuating some trait that Adam had?

That sounds a little a too much like "Christian Evolution" to me!

Christian Evolution, the belief that God traffics in evolution, is a heresy! According to the church (not me).