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12 Nov 2011, 4:48 am

He has some truth to tell. This is long, but worth it.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2mjvFNOwmc[/youtube]



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12 Nov 2011, 6:18 am

Any white person who wants to find out what it is like to be black in America should try being white in rural Japan.


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12 Nov 2011, 6:22 am

Being "white" and living in a ghetto is close enough.



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12 Nov 2011, 7:15 am

91 wrote:
Any white person who wants to find out what it is like to be black in America should try being white in rural Japan.


I wonder when LKL is going to post on the subject of Japanese privilege in Japan.
Or Chinese privilege in China.
Or Korean privilege in Korea.

There are all sorts of "privilege" in the world. When I look down my street I see all sort of people who have the "privilege" of owning houses that other people are excluded from. Obviously, since self-interest is wrong and equality is everything, these people should share their houses and all their possessions with whoever asks, and so should LKL.

LOL @ Tim Wise by the way. He has three jewish grandparents, and is thus for all intents and purposes jewish. And since there is no more damning label you can apply to a person than "anti-semite", it is clear that under Tim Wise's logic, jews are a "victim class" and therefore cannot be White. Yet he goes around pretending to be White so as to guilt-trip his suggestible White audience. (It's worth noting that when a guy called Chad Powers dared to start up a website looking at jewish privilege a few years ago, Tim Wise sent him an extremely abusive email about the fact - apparently under the illusion that it would be illegal for Powers to publish it. Unfortunately that email seems to have now disappeared from the internet.)

I'm not surprised LKL laps up this stuff.



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12 Nov 2011, 6:27 pm

did any of you even watch the video? Or is this, for you, just another gratuitous excuse to post, 'Bah, I don't have no stinkin' priviledge!'



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12 Nov 2011, 7:06 pm

When I was four I lived a simpler life. For some reason , we had hens. Some of my uncles had bunnies. And we all raised farm animals as pets to eventually eat them.

Case in point, this happened only 22 years ago. And no, I never lived in a rural area. Always an urban thing.

Nowadays, I spend all my life in front of the computer. I have fun here. I make money here. I date here. I argue with people from across the seas here. This is wonderful.


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12 Nov 2011, 7:20 pm

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did any of you even watch the video? Or is this, for you, just another gratuitous excuse to post, 'Bah, I don't have no stinkin' priviledge!'


Actually I did watch the video. The chap in you video is right that most of the problem relates to the fact that white people in first world countries do not see racism.


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12 Nov 2011, 8:44 pm

codarac wrote:
91 wrote:
Any white person who wants to find out what it is like to be black in America should try being white in rural Japan.

Tim wise is a Joo a lying stinking filthy Joo he hurts my special white feelings.
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Wow Cody don't hold back. :lol:


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12 Nov 2011, 9:30 pm

codarac wrote:
91 wrote:
Any white person who wants to find out what it is like to be black in America should try being white in rural Japan.


I wonder when LKL is going to post on the subject of Japanese privilege in Japan.
Or Chinese privilege in China.
Or Korean privilege in Korea.

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Could it be because he is a United Statesean addressing a largely U.S. Audience.

Could it be that the claim to special fame of the U.S. is its basic principle that all people should get equal protection under the laws?

Could it be?

The first order of business for a U.S. person is to clean our stable up, not the stable of the Japanese or the Koreans.

All politics is local and it should start close to home.

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12 Nov 2011, 9:43 pm

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Being "white" and living in a ghetto is close enough.


No, it's really not



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13 Nov 2011, 4:33 am

JakobVirgil wrote:
codarac wrote:
91 wrote:
Any white person who wants to find out what it is like to be black in America should try being white in rural Japan.

Tim wise is a Joo a lying stinking filthy Joo he hurts my special white feelings.
.

Wow Cody don't hold back. :lol:


Such wit. But being accused of harbouring feelings of specialness and victimisation by one of God's Chosen People is what's really funny here.

Let's see if Jakob employs similar facetiousness to leap to the defence of Whites (or should that be "Whiiiiites") the next time someone on this forum suggests that the Joe Sixpacks and Sally Soccermoms who turn up to Tea Party rallies are really promoting their racial interests by proxy. I doubt it somehow.



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13 Nov 2011, 4:36 am

LKL wrote:
did any of you even watch the video? Or is this, for you, just another gratuitous excuse to post, 'Bah, I don't have no stinkin' priviledge!'


Yes, I watched the entire video.

The last half was almost entirely distinct from the first half.

The first half baits arguments like those of Charles Murray and his faulty notions in "The Bell Curve" & his other books, while his coming book may be another Libertarian "trick" of "Coming Apart: The State of White America, 1960-2010" (2012).

Involving autism and the first half, (especially since the other forum was "locked" for "making" sharper Bell Curve assertions) the twisted views in "Rights Gone Wrong: How Law Corrupts the Struggle for Equality" (2011) and "The Race Card: How Bluffing About Bias Makes Race Relations Worse" (2009), both by Richard Thompson Ford, hides behind measurement devices, as is most apparent with the court cases involving Wal-Mart and sex discrimination, a Fire-Department "discarding" test scores that the court reversed the discard (giving greatest weight to the greatest score), and a Police-Department "discarding" high scoring applicants with the courts holding the opposite than with the Fire-department. (It is therefore legally OK to refuse to promote people "too smart to be a cop", but failure to promote people "too smart to be promoted in the fire department" is reverse discrimination).

"Rights Gone Wrong" has 8 search results for autism, and it begins the first chapter with autism as if exploited to be source of a mainly incorrectly exploited "Entitlement and Advantage", versus the "correct" epilepsy (in my federal court cases, reality and the judges dictated the exact opposite of what Ford's trying to sell).

The last half of the video reminds me of the earlier works of John Steinbeck, and some disputes of whether the "Second Bill of Rights" involving FDR wasn't a near desperate response to prevent communism/socialism from gaining an overwhelming victory in the USA, with the recent attempts to overturn the second bill based upon the currently (or just previously?) absence of the the threat of socialism to the American elite. The news media seems to do its best to forget Hoover's conflict with the Bonus Army and America's own "Tiananmen Square" massacre.

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13 Nov 2011, 9:35 am

codarac wrote:
JakobVirgil wrote:
codarac wrote:
91 wrote:
Any white person who wants to find out what it is like to be black in America should try being white in rural Japan.

Tim wise is a Joo a lying stinking filthy Joo he hurts my special white feelings.
.

Wow Cody don't hold back. :lol:


Such wit. But being accused of harbouring feelings of specialness and victimisation by one of God's Chosen People is what's really funny here.

Let's see if Jakob employs similar facetiousness to leap to the defence of Whites (or should that be "Whiiiiites") the next time someone on this forum suggests that the Joe Sixpacks and Sally Soccermoms who turn up to Tea Party rallies are really promoting their racial interests by proxy. I doubt it somehow.


I am not defending the Joos I am making fun of you.
I am mocking the very silly construct of "defending racial interest"
Race is an outmoded concept and a handle for the manipulation of the weak-minded.
So If the Tea Party know-nothings are participating in the meaningless and masturbatory act
of Defending The White Race(c) I will mock them the same way I mock the pro-Israel non-thinkers.
But this would only be consistency not hypocrisy . :lol:

Poor poor White People(r) we should start a charity to help them out as they seem unable to help themselves. :cry:


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13 Nov 2011, 9:51 am

I think you are all missing Miller's point. The idea that any group of people is somehow immune from the laws of nature and the laws of human psychology is simply bogus. Miller pointed out that the illusion of privilege is very dangerous to the people who think they are privileged and they should change their mind set.

What I do not agree to is some egalitarian redistribution of the wealth. If all the assets of the U.S.A. were gathered into one pot and shared out equally among all the families of the land we would all be poor overnight. If the border with Mexico were thrown wide open the south west portion of the U.S. would be economically ruined and socially destroyed in short order. Submitting to the barbarians is not the solution. Building a world in which there are no barbarians is the way to go.

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13 Nov 2011, 11:36 am

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What I do not agree to is some egalitarian redistribution of the wealth. If all the assets of the U.S.A. were gathered into one pot and shared out equally among all the families of the land we would all be poor overnight.
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a matter of relativity i would think, since those who were truly poor may in fact believe they had become rich.


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13 Nov 2011, 12:38 pm

peebo wrote:
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What I do not agree to is some egalitarian redistribution of the wealth. If all the assets of the U.S.A. were gathered into one pot and shared out equally among all the families of the land we would all be poor overnight.
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a matter of relativity i would think, since those who were truly poor may in fact believe they had become rich.


If you have less than what is necessary to feed you, cloth you and keep you warm in winter you are poor in absolute terms. A subdivision of assets in the U.S. would put us ALL below the official poverty level.

Not only would be all consigned to squalor but there would be no investment capital to help lift us from our misery.

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