The 40s pledge of allegiance did mention god.

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20 Nov 2011, 3:55 pm

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20 Nov 2011, 4:03 pm

I was there sonny. No mention of God in the pledge until the Eisenhower administration put it in in 1954.

The pledge was written by a socialist and not adopted officially until 1942.

The Pledge of Allegiance of the United States is an expression of loyalty to the federal flag and the republic of the United States of America, originally composed by Christian Socialist Francis Bellamy in 1892 and formally adopted by Congress as the pledge in 1942. The Pledge from the Wiki article.

It was a quasi-fascist declaration of Loyalty. Americans should not be taking Loyalty Oaths.

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20 Nov 2011, 9:31 pm

"I have no country to fight for; my country is the earth; I am a citizen of the world."
-Eugene Debs

This sums up my feelings about nationalism. I am an American citizen yet I love righteousness regardless of where it comes from and despise all that is wicked regardless of its origins. I see myself as of no race, despite my parent's identifying by racial terms. I do not value all cultures equally, seeing varying amounts of good, bad and other modal values in all of them, yet I believe no truly great culture would exclude anyone based on birth so long as they are upstanding and virtuous.


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