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30 Dec 2011, 9:39 am

Since we have a lot of Libertarians here, I wonder what you make of Gary Johnson seeking the Libertarian nomination as a presidential candidate? How does he compare to Ron Paul?



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30 Dec 2011, 2:08 pm

I like Gary, if Ron doesn't win the nomination I will probably vote for him. He probably won't run if Ron actually wins the nomination.

As for how he compares to Ron, he's basically like diet version. Gary is good on most issues but not great on some. Supports stuff like the FairTax and certain "humanitarian" wars. He's more of "lets do this because it works" rather than a "lets do this because its right" type when it comes to his beliefs if that makes since. He never had a shot at the GOP nomination or as a VP pick being personally pro-choice even tho he actually believes it should be a state issue. While I appreciate his honesty, if he simply said he believed it was a state issue he would be in a lot better position when it comes to GOP voters.

I wish instead of seeking the Libertarian Party nom he would of ran for senate in New Mexico. He'd be the favorite to win and it would of been a GOP pick up. The liberty movement could always use more voices in the senate and he could of built a national profile to run for president again in 2016 or 2020.



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30 Dec 2011, 2:26 pm

If Ron Paul wins the Republican nomination, will the Libertarian Party simply not run a candidate?



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30 Dec 2011, 2:37 pm

pandabear wrote:
If Ron Paul wins the Republican nomination, will the Libertarian Party simply not run a candidate?
I don't believe Gary would run and neither would most principled libertarians. The movement is firmly behind Ron Paul.

As for the Libertarian Party, they did nominate Bob Barr last time so who knows what they'll do. I wouldn't be worried about them peeling off too many votes. The actual Libertarian Party is extremely dysfunctional to say the least with its warring factions and cat herding. I'm not worried about them peeling off too many votes even if they did field a candidate.



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30 Dec 2011, 3:34 pm

My understanding is Johnson is ready to go either way. If somehow Paul is the nominee Johnson will endorse him. If not the he will pursue the election on the Libertarian Party ticket.

Would I vote for Johnson? It's quite possible. I'd have to look at whoever the Republican nominee is. Then give careful consideration to what either stands for.



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30 Dec 2011, 6:19 pm

If we're going to go calling Gary Johnson Ron Paul Lite, I think we have to acknowledge that other thing Paul has that Johnson doesn't; baggage. No questionable newsletters, no associations with conspiracy theorists, no illiberal stance on immigration; none of the things most likely about Paul to turn off young and swing voters apply to Johnson, plus he's young and has executive experience. Johnson was never given a chance, and with Paul in the race it was all too easy for his message to get lost in the noise.


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30 Dec 2011, 7:13 pm

Dox47 wrote:
If we're going to go calling Gary Johnson Ron Paul Lite, I think we have to acknowledge that other thing Paul has that Johnson doesn't; baggage. No questionable newsletters, no associations with conspiracy theorists, no illiberal stance on immigration; none of the things most likely about Paul to turn off young and swing voters apply to Johnson, plus he's young and has executive experience. Johnson was never given a chance, and with Paul in the race it was all too easy for his message to get lost in the noise.


Supporting FairTax and "humanitarian" wars are a lot bigger deal to grassroots supporters than this supposed "baggage". Gary didn't have the national organization or profile to be competitive in this election. I doubt things would of been much different at all if Ron didn't run.