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Kraichgauer
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26 Jan 2012, 5:04 pm

I thought it might be fun for WP members to make an amateur psychoanalysis of Newt Gingrich.

Let's see, symptoms include:

Grandiosity. He has claimed: He is the defender of the constitution. Only he can speak for moral values. He is the defender of civilization. People like him are the only thing standing between us and Auschwitz. He will do grandiose things like establish a permanent moon base in our lifetime.
I"m sure I've left out other examples.

Sexual promiscuity. He has been married three times. Two of those marriages ended due to his infidelity. Two of his wives had been his former mistresses. His second wife believed he had wanted an open marriage, claiming he had said: "You want me all to yourself; Chalysta doesn't care what I do," implying that he cheats on his new wife.

Hypocrisy. He signed a statement defending marriage for a right wing evangelical group, even though his serial adultery makes this a joke. Also a serial flip flopper, he had originally called the Ryan Plan "right wing social engineering," but soon after became a Ryan defender when he saw that his chances for achieving the Republican nomination was in jeopardy. Same reason why he had reversed himself on global warming. Slamming Romney as out of touch, he had nearly sunk his own chances early on by taking a Greek cruise, and had shown only an interest in selling books, causing his staff to jump ship. He criticized Freddie/Mac, and their ties to other politicians, but worked for their chief lobbyist as an "historian." On top of that, he had lost his position as Speaker of the House due to his ethics violations.

Self-absorbed and heartless. He had divorced his first wife immediately after a procedure for cancer, saying she was too old and ugly to be first lady, anyway. He divorced his second wife after she had been diagnosed with MS. He is known for his acidic tongue and vindictive nature among his peers. In his race against Romney, as in his earlier climb to Speaker of the House, he seems more interested at times in destroying his opponents than in reaching his goal.
Again, there's doubtlessly more examples I've left out.

Am I wrong in assuming he fits best with narcissistic personality disorder?

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26 Jan 2012, 6:22 pm

According to the Mayo Clinic website:

Narcissistic Personality Disorder is characterized by dramatic, emotional behavior, which is in the same category as antisocial and borderline personality disorders.

Narcissistic personality disorder symptoms may include:

  • Believing that you're better than others
  • Fantasizing about power, success and attractiveness
  • Exaggerating your achievements or talents
  • Expecting constant praise and admiration
  • Believing that you're special and acting accordingly
  • Failing to recognize other people's emotions and feelings
  • Expecting others to go along with your ideas and plans
  • Taking advantage of others
  • Expressing disdain for those you feel are inferior
  • Being jealous of others
  • Believing that others are jealous of you
  • Trouble keeping healthy relationships
  • Setting unrealistic goals
  • Being easily hurt and rejected
  • Having a fragile self-esteem
  • Appearing as tough-minded or unemotional
I believe that Newt may be Narcissistic, but I could be wrong.

:D



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26 Jan 2012, 6:26 pm

Well, the shoe does fit...


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26 Jan 2012, 6:34 pm

Fnord wrote:
According to the Mayo Clinic website:

Narcissistic Personality Disorder is characterized by dramatic, emotional behavior, which is in the same category as antisocial and borderline personality disorders.

Narcissistic personality disorder symptoms may include:
  • Believing that you're better than others
  • Fantasizing about power, success and attractiveness
  • Exaggerating your achievements or talents
  • Expecting constant praise and admiration
  • Believing that you're special and acting accordingly
  • Failing to recognize other people's emotions and feelings
  • Expecting others to go along with your ideas and plans
  • Taking advantage of others
  • Expressing disdain for those you feel are inferior
  • Being jealous of others
  • Believing that others are jealous of you
  • Trouble keeping healthy relationships
  • Setting unrealistic goals
  • Being easily hurt and rejected
  • Having a fragile self-esteem
  • Appearing as tough-minded or unemotional
I believe that Newt may be Narcissistic, but I could be wrong.

:D

Hard to use that to isolate Newt. Pretty much all politicians match up to that list. Hell, Obama matches up with more than Newt does.



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26 Jan 2012, 6:42 pm

Bataar wrote:
Fnord wrote:
According to the Mayo Clinic website:

Narcissistic Personality Disorder is characterized by dramatic, emotional behavior, which is in the same category as antisocial and borderline personality disorders.

Narcissistic personality disorder symptoms may include:
  • Believing that you're better than others
  • Fantasizing about power, success and attractiveness
  • Exaggerating your achievements or talents
  • Expecting constant praise and admiration
  • Believing that you're special and acting accordingly
  • Failing to recognize other people's emotions and feelings
  • Expecting others to go along with your ideas and plans
  • Taking advantage of others
  • Expressing disdain for those you feel are inferior
  • Being jealous of others
  • Believing that others are jealous of you
  • Trouble keeping healthy relationships
  • Setting unrealistic goals
  • Being easily hurt and rejected
  • Having a fragile self-esteem
  • Appearing as tough-minded or unemotional
I believe that Newt may be Narcissistic, but I could be wrong.

:D

Hard to use that to isolate Newt. Pretty much all politicians match up to that list. Hell, Obama matches up with more than Newt does.


You have to be a bit narcissistic to think you're popular enough to be elected.


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26 Jan 2012, 6:42 pm

Morally speaking Newt is a douchebag.
There, I said it. :cheers:
The only redeeming quality he ***might*** have is the ability and will to bring about positive change to our economy.
I haven’t even seen the shadow of an attempt of success in this endeavor from the douchebag we’re saddled with now.



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26 Jan 2012, 6:59 pm

Raptor wrote:
Morally speaking Newt is a douchebag.
There, I said it. :cheers:
The only redeeming quality he ***might*** have is the ability and will to bring about positive change to our economy.
I haven’t even seen the shadow of an attempt of success in this endeavor from the douchebag we’re saddled with now.


Really? All evidence shows that the economy is recovering. And if you had watched the last State of the Union address, you would have heard the president advocate tax breaks for corporations - - that return to America to employ Americans. As well, he had promised to give help to businesses who hire and retrain out of work Americans. How can that possibly be bad?

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26 Jan 2012, 7:02 pm

Bataar wrote:
Fnord wrote:
According to the Mayo Clinic website:

Narcissistic Personality Disorder is characterized by dramatic, emotional behavior, which is in the same category as antisocial and borderline personality disorders.

Narcissistic personality disorder symptoms may include:
  • Believing that you're better than others
  • Fantasizing about power, success and attractiveness
  • Exaggerating your achievements or talents
  • Expecting constant praise and admiration
  • Believing that you're special and acting accordingly
  • Failing to recognize other people's emotions and feelings
  • Expecting others to go along with your ideas and plans
  • Taking advantage of others
  • Expressing disdain for those you feel are inferior
  • Being jealous of others
  • Believing that others are jealous of you
  • Trouble keeping healthy relationships
  • Setting unrealistic goals
  • Being easily hurt and rejected
  • Having a fragile self-esteem
  • Appearing as tough-minded or unemotional
I believe that Newt may be Narcissistic, but I could be wrong.

:D

Hard to use that to isolate Newt. Pretty much all politicians match up to that list. Hell, Obama matches up with more than Newt does.


Really? Really? Maybe in the Bizzaro world of Fox Noise.

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26 Jan 2012, 8:10 pm

I don't know what diagnosis to give him medically. But he's a motormouth and an "idea man". IIRC some Republican commented that, "Newt has 20 ideas before breakfast, the problem is that a lot of them are bad ideas. Something like that.

I see that Rush Limbaugh was covering the Romney-Newt attacks today and unearthed a comment from Reagan about one of Newt's ideas. In his diary Reagan referenced Newt one time and said that Newt's ideas, "would cripple our defense program.". That all seems to fit the pattern. Now Tom Delay is joining in saying that Newt had a new agenda every day as House Speaker. I think you'll see Romney picking up on this attack line soon. Just as Gingrich ramps up his "Swiss Mitt" stuff.



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26 Jan 2012, 8:10 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Morally speaking Newt is a douchebag.
There, I said it. :cheers:
The only redeeming quality he ***might*** have is the ability and will to bring about positive change to our economy.
I haven’t even seen the shadow of an attempt of success in this endeavor from the douchebag we’re saddled with now.


Really? All evidence shows that the economy is recovering. And if you had watched the last State of the Union address, you would have heard the president advocate tax breaks for corporations - - that return to America to employ Americans. As well, he had promised to give help to businesses who hire and retrain out of work Americans. How can that possibly be bad?

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Duh, a bit late isn't it?
Your boy is grasping at straws now that we're in an election year.



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26 Jan 2012, 8:14 pm

Raptor wrote:
Morally speaking Newt is a douchebag.
There, I said it. :cheers:
The only redeeming quality he ***might*** have is the ability and will to bring about positive change to our economy.
I haven’t even seen the shadow of an attempt of success in this endeavor from the douchebag we’re saddled with now.


He isn't consistent enough. Companies want stability when they enter a civilised country, not someone who will throw a temper tantrum every time someone calls him on his BS.


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26 Jan 2012, 8:16 pm

Based on the amount of time, energy and effort that has been devoted to the character assassanation of Newt by the goofy left, they must be really scared of him. All the more reason to vote for him in the primary. :wink:



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26 Jan 2012, 8:17 pm

Sigh........you liberals should at least be satisfied that I called Newt a douchebag.



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26 Jan 2012, 8:19 pm

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Based on the amount of time, energy and effort that has been devoted to the character assassanation of Newt by the goofy left, they must be really scared of him. All the more reason to vote for him in the primary. :wink:


You must not be paying attention. The assassination of Gingrich's character is being driven by Mitt's allies. Republicans. Even Rush Limbaugh sees it. And Gingrich is doing the same to Mitt.

It's Santorum that no one bothers attacking. He's just standing there untouched.



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26 Jan 2012, 8:20 pm

Catamount wrote:
Based on the amount of time, energy and effort that has been devoted to the character assassanation of Newt by the goofy left, they must be really scared of him. All the more reason to vote for him in the primary. :wink:


Actually, most of the character assassination directed at Gingrich is actually coming from the right.

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26 Jan 2012, 8:22 pm

Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Morally speaking Newt is a douchebag.
There, I said it. :cheers:
The only redeeming quality he ***might*** have is the ability and will to bring about positive change to our economy.
I haven’t even seen the shadow of an attempt of success in this endeavor from the douchebag we’re saddled with now.


Really? All evidence shows that the economy is recovering. And if you had watched the last State of the Union address, you would have heard the president advocate tax breaks for corporations - - that return to America to employ Americans. As well, he had promised to give help to businesses who hire and retrain out of work Americans. How can that possibly be bad?

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Duh, a bit late isn't it?
Your boy is grasping at straws now that we're in an election year.


It's never too late, as long as he has the possibility of a second term.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer