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09 Mar 2012, 8:57 pm

http://www.slate.com/articles/health_an ... vior_.html

According to this article, the "aspirin strategy" doesn't work. Who'd have guessed?



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09 Mar 2012, 9:11 pm

I made the mistake of following one of the links to Lush Rimbaugh's website and my faith in humanity, low to begin with, has not gone up


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10 Mar 2012, 9:45 am

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I made the mistake of following one of the links to Lush Rimbaugh's website and my faith in humanity, low to begin with, has not gone up


I actually found his website somewhat entertaining. The fact that so many people take his statements as fact is the dark, scary rabbit hole for me.



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10 Mar 2012, 10:01 am

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a federal law inadvertently eliminated the college discount on birth control pills, causing their price on campus to rise from $5-$10 per month to $30-$50 per month

DEAR GOD. Imagine having to pay $30-$50 a month for a leisure activity. These poor college students, my heart goes out to them.



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10 Mar 2012, 10:18 am

You are an utter idiot if you think birth control is a leisure activity. It is a citizen duty. Birth control reduces government spending and thus there are no rational arguments against using tax payer money on it. Besides, college students do pay taxes too.


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10 Mar 2012, 11:22 am

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You are an utter idiot if you think birth control is a leisure activity

It is risible that you would call me an idiot after somehow managing to interpret my comment as implying that birth control itself is a leisure activity. :lmao:

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Birth control reduces government spending and thus there are no rational arguments against using tax payer money on it

There are very rational arguments against it that vary depending on how you plan to spend tax payer money on it. Are you advocating making it free to anyone that wants it?



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10 Mar 2012, 11:35 am

Burzum wrote:
Vexcalibur wrote:
You are an utter idiot if you think birth control is a leisure activity

It is risible that you would call me an idiot after somehow managing to interpret my comment as implying that birth control itself is a leisure activity. :lmao:

Vexcalibur wrote:
Birth control reduces government spending and thus there are no rational arguments against using tax payer money on it

There are very rational arguments against it that vary depending on how you plan to spend tax payer money on it. Are you advocating making it free to anyone that wants it?

It would probably reduce the number of unplanned pregnancies and thus single mothers if it is free. Single mothers make up a hug portion of welfare recipients, so the government very well could save money in the long run if free birth control is available.



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10 Mar 2012, 11:54 am

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It would probably reduce the number of unplanned pregnancies and thus single mothers if it is free. Single mothers make up a hug portion of welfare recipients, so the government very well could save money in the long run if free birth control is available.

Are you going to impose limits on the amount of birth control people are allowed to have for free? If so, what is the limit?



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10 Mar 2012, 1:47 pm

Burzum wrote:
Vexcalibur wrote:
You are an utter idiot if you think birth control is a leisure activity

It is risible that you would call me an idiot after somehow managing to interpret my comment as implying that birth control itself is a leisure activity. :lmao:

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rise from $5-$10 per month to $30-$50 per month


DEAR GOD. Imagine having to pay $30-$50 a month for a leisure activity

Come on, we are not fools. Either you meant that and are now retreating or you really, really suck at stating your own opinion.


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to spend tax payer money on it.

This measure reduces tax payer spending. When calculating the net total, you are paying less taxes thanks to this move. There is truly no rational argument against this idea.

And again, the people getting this benefit happen to also be tax payers


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Are you advocating making it free to anyone that wants it?

Hell yeah. To any tax payer, at least. Albeit giving it to people that are currently not citizens or can't pay taxes is a great idea too..


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10 Mar 2012, 4:07 pm

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Are you going to impose limits on the amount of birth control people are allowed to have for free? If so, what is the limit?


Where is the limit for the amount of children born to parents unable or unwilling to financially support their offspring? Education and free birth control are much more effective than abstinence only teachings and purity rings.



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10 Mar 2012, 5:06 pm

Burzum wrote:
AstroGeek wrote:
It would probably reduce the number of unplanned pregnancies and thus single mothers if it is free. Single mothers make up a hug portion of welfare recipients, so the government very well could save money in the long run if free birth control is available.

Are you going to impose limits on the amount of birth control people are allowed to have for free? If so, what is the limit?


not all birth control is dependant on how much sex you have.


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10 Mar 2012, 6:03 pm

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Come on, we are not fools. Either you meant that and are now retreating or you really, really suck at stating your own opinion.

Well apparently you suck at reading comprehension, because it is quite clear from my statement that I was referring to casual sex as being a leisure activity, not birth control. And don't think I haven't already anticipated your next argument, I'm going to let you make it so that you can back yourself into a corner even more. :lmao:

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Hell yeah. To any tax payer, at least. Albeit giving it to people that are currently not citizens or can't pay taxes is a great idea too..

Then answer my question posed to AstroGeek. What would the limit be on how much birth control a single person can use, if any?




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Where is the limit for the amount of children born to parents unable or unwilling to financially support their offspring?

That is nonsensical and completely unrelated to my question.




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not all birth control is dependant on how much sex you have

Right, but most birth control is dependent on how much sex you have, and you're going to have to make those forms of birth control available as well since not everyone wants to use the pill due to its side effects. So, what is the limit?



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10 Mar 2012, 11:39 pm

why would there be a limit on how much birth control a person used?


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11 Mar 2012, 12:29 am

Burzum wrote:
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a federal law inadvertently eliminated the college discount on birth control pills, causing their price on campus to rise from $5-$10 per month to $30-$50 per month

DEAR GOD. Imagine having to pay $30-$50 a month for a leisure activity. These poor college students, my heart goes out to them.

This is a lot when you don't have much money.


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11 Mar 2012, 12:36 am

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why would there be a limit on how much birth control a person used?

There's a natural limit in that taking more than one hormonal bc prescription at a time would play physiological havoc with a woman's physiology.



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11 Mar 2012, 2:33 am

LKL wrote:
hyperlexian wrote:
why would there be a limit on how much birth control a person used?

There's a natural limit in that taking more than one hormonal bc prescription at a time would play physiological havoc with a woman's physiology.

yeah, my question didn't come out properly. i was unsure what Burzum was asking - i thought he was saying there should be an external limit placed on a person as to how much birth control they could have, and that wasn't making sense to me. i think i've completely misunderstood.


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