How to prove any arbitrary statement whatsoever.

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04 Dec 2013, 12:42 pm

One can prove any arbitrary statement whatsoever by doing the following:

Say, "God does not exist".

It's called the Carroll Conjecture. The Carroll Conjecture states the following: A) The Carroll Conjecture is false if and only if God does not exist. B) The Carroll Conjecture is false.

Now either the Carroll Conjecture is true or false. If true, then God does not exist as per parts B and A. If false, then God does not exist. Therefore, God does not exist.



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04 Dec 2013, 1:34 pm

You can also keep repeating it like a broken record, never post any sources of your own, and keep ignoring sources posted by your opponent. I've had this happen in many a debate, but especially the one over the medical necessity of transition-related care for gender dysphoria.


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04 Dec 2013, 4:41 pm

Yay, another way to prove that Coke is Baby Pandas.



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04 Dec 2013, 6:36 pm

Another look at me post how droll to expect it to be pandered to by anyone. No thought, just repeated thoughts of others to show what a bore they can be and how rudely classless they are.

We get it...folks don't invite you to parties because you repeat the same boring crap every-time . Does this forum have to also be dull? Beating a dead horse with thoughts that are not your own, is just tiring and sad.

How about god is evil, or something new...just don't bore us to tears with the same copy-n-paste blather. If your going to be rude, be interesting.


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05 Dec 2013, 4:19 am

IrishJew wrote:
One can prove any arbitrary statement whatsoever by doing the following:

Say, "God does not exist".

It's called the Carroll Conjecture. The Carroll Conjecture states the following: A) The Carroll Conjecture is false if and only if God does not exist. B) The Carroll Conjecture is false.

Now either the Carroll Conjecture is true or false. If true, then God does not exist as per parts B and A. If false, then God does not exist. Therefore, God does not exist.
The simplest reply to that is "Prove it", because atheists can't do it. Verifying the non-existence of anything is impossible.


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05 Dec 2013, 4:37 am

Moviefan2k4 wrote:
IrishJew wrote:
One can prove any arbitrary statement whatsoever by doing the following:

Say, "God does not exist".

It's called the Carroll Conjecture. The Carroll Conjecture states the following: A) The Carroll Conjecture is false if and only if God does not exist. B) The Carroll Conjecture is false.

Now either the Carroll Conjecture is true or false. If true, then God does not exist as per parts B and A. If false, then God does not exist. Therefore, God does not exist.
The simplest reply to that is "Prove it", because atheists can't do it. Verifying the non-existence of anything is impossible.


I can't prove pink flying elephants don't exist... but that is no excuse to pray to them and hold them responsible for creating the universe.


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05 Dec 2013, 4:40 am

Moviefan2k4 wrote:
The simplest reply to that is "Prove it", because atheists can't do it. Verifying the non-existence of anything is impossible.


If you reject the burden of proof of unfalsifiable claims, you reject reason itself.

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05 Dec 2013, 5:16 am

So...If I claim that John Boehner is a Reptoid alien from Arcturus, all I have to do is say "if god doesnt exist than John Boehner is a reptoid alien from arcturus" and that proves my claim that he is that?

I could say "if god doesnt exist than god exists" and that would prove that God exists?