Hamas psycho brags about brainwashing innocent kids to..

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...kill themselves to kill Jews, but never seems to want to volunteer his own murderous, cowardly, terrorist arse.

Notice, though, that he's quite happy for the long-suffering people of Gaza to waste their children's lives for absolutely nothing. Funny that:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qX4X07o56OA[/youtube]
I wish MEMRI (although it's not them in this clip) the very best of health. Keep up the good work.

And I suppose that some Palestinians actually believe this guy some kind of hero. Unbelievable!

Israelis are exposed to a daily diet of this genocidal propaganda from Hamas and the PA. And we wonder why they take their security seriously?

theists killing theists.

whoever wins, reason loses.

the only difference is the israeli theists are nice and safe behind their tanks and state of the art weapons while the palestinian civillians pay the price.

No. More like beasts with the form of humans attempting to expunge a tribe of genuine human beings that live next door. By demonizing Jews, jihadim extremists have forfeited any claim to being called human or humane.

ruveyn

dont you understand why that sort of mentality begets the same from the other side?

hamas, for all their ranting and hot air werent the ones who forcibly displaced the indigenous population.They arent going to 'expunge' anyone. It is all based on religious dogma. We're talking about a badly trained, probably poorly educated ragtag group of paramilitaries with toy rockets against a nuclear proto superpower backed by an actual superpower.

I could announce my intention to wipe out all ginger people, it does not mean i have the means to do it.

There were three wars '46, '67 and '73 all started by the Arab speaking folks and all lost. The rule is this: If you lose the war you lose the land. If the Palistinians had chose not to listen to the "Grand Mufti" and his insane rants there never would have been these wars and they would be living if not cordially, the peacefully with Jews who bought a major hunk of Palestine (with gold) from the Ottoman Turkish empire, the then legal owner of the territory. So they didn't "displace" the locals. They bought land peacibly. The Jewish settler also employed Palestinians who otherwise would not have had paying work. Unfortunately the Palestinian saw fit to try to drive the Jews out of the neighborhood by war. They lost. Tough tittie.

ruveyn

Selective MEMRI strikes again!

Israel started all the wars, never forget that. All of them. I even add 1973 as Sadat offered the peace plan with the backing of US Secretary of State William Rogers in 1971 but Israel said "no" backed by then US National Security Director Henry Kissinger with his "stalemate" policy and Egypt had the right to recover what was stolen in the 1967 aggression. This Kissinger interference with Nixon taking his side (despite Nixon's own personal anti-semitism or perhaps because of that anti-semitism!) is what really ended things for Rogers and paved the way for Kissinger's taking over the Secretary of State post.

Your hypocrisy is staggering, xenon13.

If you are going to accuse others of selective memory, you might want to take the plank out of your own eye, first.

Whatever the shortcomings of Kissinger's and Israel's foreign policy in the early 1970's, you are dreaming in Technicolor (tm) if you suppose that a failure to capitulate to Egypt's so-called peace plan would have forestalled the 1973 assault.

Ah, Menacham Begin... he actually described the non-people from the "Land without a people" as "beasts with two legs".

Considering the limited extent of the Egyptian offensive and that they really double-crossed the Syrians whose job in their eyes was essentially to be a diversion, and considering Sadat's actions following that, my conclusion is the correct one, and add to that the fact that Sadat signed such a deal later on and did not attack Israel.

Israel may call hamas beasts, but Israel had no problems working with the beasts of the lebanese falangists when they murdered around 2000 palestinian civillians in 1982.

http://jewishvoiceforpeace.org/content/ ... d-shatilla

That was a very dark day and shame on the Israeli government at that time for doing such a thing. A very short sighted politically motivated move. However the Israelis have not repeated that blunder.

The Shatilah massacre was a blot on Israel's honor.

ruveyn

Your conclusion lacks objectivity, and smacks of an exercise in bias confirmation.

Your analysis is woefully inadequate, since it fails to incorporate the US-Soviet implications of the Yom Kippur War, it makes not mention of domestic Egyptian challenges to Sadat's continued rule as a motivation for war. It fails to evaluate Meir's decision not to launch a pre-emptive strike. And most importantly it makes the assumption that Sadat's willingness to negotiate a peace agreement with Israel was not influenced by the results of the war.

I suggest that none of the government leaders invovled (Sadat, Meir and Begin) would have been willing to sit down had it not been for the outcomes of the Yom Kippur War. Israeli complacency was deeply affected, and so too was Egyptian confidence. Without the demonstration that neither side could expect military victory over the other, it is unlikely that any peaceful agreement could have been reached.

You forgot the part where Israel established the Kahan Commission to investigate the Sabra and Shatilla massacre. And that this eventually led to the resignation of Ariel Sharon as Minister of Defense.

Please post similar internal inquiries carried out by Hamas.

This comes from the man who a) suggested that the Grand Mufti was right to want to "get rid of the invaders" (i.e. the Jews fleeing Europe because of Nazi German persecution and murder) in the context of the Mufti being a good friend of Hitler's, who wanted his own Holocaust of ALL Jews living in the Middle East and b) evaded and ignored twice when I asked him - point-blank - whether he supports or approves of the Holocaust of Jews in Europe. I wish I could dig his crap out easily, but I don't want to traipse through endless Israel threads to find his nonsense.

Frankly, I find his nonsense sometimes indistinguishable from Nazism.

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