Well screw the middle class.

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That's all the politicians want to talk about its as if no one else exists so as far as I am concerned Obama and Romney can go ***** themselves. It doesnt matter who we vote for even so the crap will continue until it collapses or people stand up to it which they probably wont.
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A lot of people who consider themselves "middle class" don't actually fit the definition. For example, almost all working-class people consider themselves middle class.
When politicians say they will protect the middle class, they are using the broader definition whereby almost anyone who is not a millionaire or on welfare is included.

The Government has been bought and paid for by some of those with great wealth. Now who are they going to screw? Themselves? Not likely. They will go after that portion of the population which can produce wealth and which have the least means of defense against be screwed over. That puts the bull's eye right on the Middle Class (or what is left of it).

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Unfortunately these whizbang leaders don't realize that it is the middle class that keeps the economy going by its purchases. Therefore, as the middle class declines so will the economy decline.

That's what the plutocrats have China and India for. China has a middle class of 300 million. That's our entire population able to make purchases with none of those pesky marginal consumers like the retired, the disabled and babies to bring down your means.

Hope lies in the proles (hence my pessimism)

To those in the US - what's the feeling over there? Given all your guns, what's the possibility of an (attempted or succesful) armed insurrection, of whatever political stripe?

When we have protests over here, the police crack down and the issues are dismissed, and it's reported from that POV. When it happens abroad, the reports in the UK media are generally a bit more sympathetic to the issues.

China is also more corporate friendly and investment friendly than most of the Western world. Whereas the focus in the West has been to create public offices to hinder private sector progress, China creates offices that are there to promote private sector progress.

Plutocrats have no national loyalty. They don't even have loyalty to each other when you see the game play out for a long period of time. Recommending that we adopt China's liberalization to get that growth back in America is cargo cult economics.

Question, why should you be loyal to the piece of land that your parents happened to f**k on?

Nationalism isn't the point. The meaning of what I said was that it is assuming that if we just do what we see China doing then the plutocrats will want to return to doing business with America. This is based on the same mind set that led islanders to begin to build their own 'airstrips' so that the gods that Americans must be getting that cargo from will make a delivery to them.

I just find it obnoxious since there is a growing number of low class people as well, and specificing the middle class in all the adds doesn't really create the image the government or politicians running for president give a damn about that.

I suppose if the majority of people identify as middle class I can see the rationality behind it, but even so how am I supposed to vote for any of them if their focus is specifically 'the middle class' I mean I personally am certainly not there and probably wont get there so maybe they should focus on the whole population than just one segment. It might open the eyes of some of those psuedo-middle class people to their real situation as well.

Well the going and screwing themselves thing was more wishful thinking I suppose. Other then that though I cant say I disagree with the analysis.

I blame the people NTs. They have the power to vote but they are unwilling spend time learning the basics
of economics or politics.
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Have folk got jaded yet by politicians.

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And its a sh*thole as far as I know, based on many national geographic articles and anything else I've read or watched about it. I mean I have no idea what it was but I remember watching something about the typical life of a chinese worker and it was a couple basically they had to spend most of their time working and could hardly spend time together just to afford a crummy as in really sh*tty apartnment they lived in.

So maybe its a bad idea to look down on the retired, disabled, babies and well the poor since I know that can go in that list of things bringing down the means or whatever. Also maybe U.S corporations contribute to the sh*thole that china is so politicians bought and paid for by them aren't going to do us any good either, at least not in my opinion.

Yeah, the plutocrats have a real sweetheart deal in China. Everybody has to work all of the time for them and they have to remain happy or else they can be disappeared by the Communists. s**t, they're never going to get that kind of deal in America.

The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.