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22 Feb 2013, 8:37 am

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Religious satellite TV show Miracle Hour 'risking lives'

TV shows made in London that encourage viewers to believe they are cured of life-threatening illnesses by prayer have been condemned by charities.

Charities criticised an episode of the Miracle Hour show, on Faith World TV, during which a diabetic caller was told he was "set free" from the disease.

"It is particularly dangerous and puts his life at risk," said African Health Policy Network head Francis Kaikumba.

I'm in two minds about whether shows like this should be allowed to air. They do put people's lives at risk, yes, by people who are stupid and brainwashed enough to believe in the kind of dangerous nonsense that is pushed by these stations. On the other hand, I also believe in freedom of choice and if people are that silly that they will believe in stuff like this, then let them. I'm going for Option 2.

They do deserve to be condemned though.



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22 Feb 2013, 9:20 am

Tequila wrote:
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Religious satellite TV show Miracle Hour 'risking lives'

TV shows made in London that encourage viewers to believe they are cured of life-threatening illnesses by prayer have been condemned by charities.

Charities criticised an episode of the Miracle Hour show, on Faith World TV, during which a diabetic caller was told he was "set free" from the disease.

"It is particularly dangerous and puts his life at risk," said African Health Policy Network head Francis Kaikumba.

I'm in two minds about whether shows like this should be allowed to air. They do put people's lives at risk, yes, by people who are stupid and brainwashed enough to believe in the kind of dangerous nonsense that is pushed by these stations. On the other hand, I also believe in freedom of choice and if people are that silly that they will believe in stuff like this, then let them. I'm going for Option 2.

They do deserve to be condemned though.


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22 Feb 2013, 9:43 am

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Everyone has an inherent right to be stupid, as long as they alone are the victim of their own stupidity.


As evidenced by various people winning posthumous "Darwin Awards" for taking themselves out of the gene pool due to their stupid actions.


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22 Feb 2013, 10:26 am

I always wonder what these faith healers do when they themselves get cancer or diabetes. Is their faith strong enough to cure them or will they chicken out and see a real medical professional?



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22 Feb 2013, 10:41 am

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I always wonder what these faith healers do when they themselves get cancer or diabetes. Is their faith strong enough to cure them or will they chicken out and see a real medical professional?


Reminds me of the case of that cult leader I remembered reading about ages and ages ago who got tons of followers by saying that he can live solely on water and nothing else. He was busted when it was found that he was staying overnight somewhere and had a chicken dinner delivered to his hotel.

I can't find a source, which is a massive pain in the ass.



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22 Feb 2013, 11:15 am

Tequila wrote:
trollcatman wrote:
I always wonder what these faith healers do when they themselves get cancer or diabetes. Is their faith strong enough to cure them or will they chicken out and see a real medical professional?


Reminds me of the case of that cult leader I remembered reading about ages and ages ago who got tons of followers by saying that he can live solely on water and nothing else. He was busted when it was found that he was staying overnight somewhere and had a chicken dinner delivered to his hotel.

I can't find a source, which is a massive pain in the ass.


If they themselves believe they are merely idiots, but when they don't believe what they preach they are just con-men. I think the majority of faith healers are in the second category. Too bad there are so many people just waiting to be fooled.



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22 Feb 2013, 11:16 am

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If they themselves believe they are merely idiots, but when they don't believe what they preach they are just con-men. I think the majority of faith healers are in the second category. Too bad there are so many people just waiting to be fooled.


See, oh, Sally Morgan?



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22 Feb 2013, 11:24 am

Tequila wrote:
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If they themselves believe they are merely idiots, but when they don't believe what they preach they are just con-men. I think the majority of faith healers are in the second category. Too bad there are so many people just waiting to be fooled.


See, oh, Sally Morgan?


Never heard of her. We do have Derek Ogilvy (or something) on tv in the Netherlands, and he even had a show talking to dead Dutch people. They must have learned English in the afterlife. I really hope people stop believing in this crap. Humans can made Large Hadron Colliders and some other humans are basically dabbling in witchcraft, all in the 21st century.



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22 Feb 2013, 12:25 pm

Tequila wrote:
Reminds me of the case of that cult leader I remembered reading about ages and ages ago who got tons of followers by saying that he can live solely on water and nothing else. He was busted when it was found that he was staying overnight somewhere and had a chicken dinner delivered to his hotel.

I can't find a source, which is a massive pain in the ass.

Any of the following?:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inedia#Practitioners



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22 Feb 2013, 1:00 pm

Pat Robertson claims he can receive the "word of knowledge," which allegedly tells him someone is being healed of this or that malady. So called "men of God" like this are a menace, and I live for the day when one or more of them are sued for causing someone's death.

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22 Feb 2013, 1:02 pm

Quack, quack, quack

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22 Feb 2013, 1:31 pm

GGPViper wrote:
Tequila wrote:
Reminds me of the case of that cult leader I remembered reading about ages and ages ago who got tons of followers by saying that he can live solely on water and nothing else. He was busted when it was found that he was staying overnight somewhere and had a chicken dinner delivered to his hotel.

I can't find a source, which is a massive pain in the ass.

Any of the following?:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inedia#Practitioners


Your man's name is Wiley Brooks.



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22 Feb 2013, 1:43 pm

Tequila wrote:
GGPViper wrote:
Tequila wrote:
Reminds me of the case of that cult leader I remembered reading about ages and ages ago who got tons of followers by saying that he can live solely on water and nothing else. He was busted when it was found that he was staying overnight somewhere and had a chicken dinner delivered to his hotel.

I can't find a source, which is a massive pain in the ass.

Any of the following?:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inedia#Practitioners

Your man's name is Wiley Brooks.

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22 Feb 2013, 3:25 pm

Back in the 90s, there was a televangelist named Benny Hinn who had a show on the Trinity Broadcasting Network. This guy was a major fraud. He'd get pre-selected audience members with various medical problems to line up in front of him. Then he'd pray and touch their foreheads, causing the audience member to faint. He'd say something like "by the power of God you are healed" but his ministry would never do follow ups with the audience members to see if their illnesses were gone. Wouldn't one think that if God was working through Benny Hinn to heal people that it would be a major news story? His church would be flooded with the world's sick eager to be healed. He got away with this for a long time apparently before anyone caught on.



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22 Feb 2013, 4:16 pm

Telekon wrote:
Back in the 90s, there was a televangelist named Benny Hinn who had a show on the Trinity Broadcasting Network. This guy was a major fraud. He'd get pre-selected audience members with various medical problems to line up in front of him. Then he'd pray and touch their foreheads, causing the audience member to faint. He'd say something like "by the power of God you are healed" but his ministry would never do follow ups with the audience members to see if their illnesses were gone. Wouldn't one think that if God was working through Benny Hinn to heal people that it would be a major news story? His church would be flooded with the world's sick eager to be healed. He got away with this for a long time apparently before anyone caught on.


I saw that Benny Hinn person on a tv show years ago. A comedian/journalist goes to one of those faith healing events in a wheelchair and he gets "healed" in 1998. I don't know if I can post the video because it contains some uncensored swear words. Youtube search for Rob Muntz in the us.



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22 Feb 2013, 4:19 pm

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I always wonder what these faith healers do when they themselves get cancer or diabetes. Is their faith strong enough to cure them or will they chicken out and see a real medical professional?


They go to another faith healer. Professional courtesy.

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