Possible consequences of the US government shutdown

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02 Oct 2013, 9:12 pm

This is just speculation I'm putting up here, might not be the right forum but whatever. What I'm predicting: In the elections next year, pretty much most of the people in Congress might be thrown out of office, after this fiasco, and more initiatives to reform the house and senate, like adding terms limits or something. And this'll be in Mad's Dumb 20 issue in December.

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02 Oct 2013, 9:25 pm

but you will hear this from all quarters- "not MY congressman!"

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02 Oct 2013, 10:40 pm

Once people start getting signed up for the ACA, they're going to realize it's not the "free lunch" they thought it was going to be and you may see attitudes change considerably. Besides, there's a whole year to go before the mid terms and the public has a notoriously short memory. The whole "shut down" thing is not as big a deal as the media is making it out to be.

Politics is the art of negotiation and when you have an executive who insists "I will not negotiate," you're not likely to see much productivity. But that's the risk you take when you hire someone with a huge ego and no practical experience.

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02 Oct 2013, 10:45 pm

when it comes to the ACA, I am damned thankful that he is standing up to those TP bullies. they can use these same bullyboy tactics to kill social security and medicare also.

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02 Oct 2013, 11:53 pm

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Exactly. The only reason anyone worries about it is if they are truly ignorant.

If you want to see what to expect, look at past shutdowns and see what happened. The answer is, not much. Even the Federal employees sent home without pay are almost certain to see Congress vote to go ahead and pay them in full for the time they spent at home. It's pretty much like a paid vacation for them.

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02 Oct 2013, 11:58 pm

auntblabby wrote:

when it comes to the ACA, I am damned thankful that he is standing up to those TP bullies. they can use these same bullyboy tactics to kill social security and medicare also.

I've known one of the Tea Party US Congressmen for over forty years. I know him quite well and would hardly call him a bully. Your choice of language to refer to them as using bully tactics affects my opinion of you, not them.

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03 Oct 2013, 12:00 am

eric76 wrote:

auntblabby wrote:

when it comes to the ACA, I am damned thankful that he is standing up to those TP bullies. they can use these same bullyboy tactics to kill social security and medicare also.

and your 1] support of their current tactics and 2] denial that they are indeed the tactics of a bully, is not making any friends either, not that you care.

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03 Oct 2013, 12:13 am

auntblabby wrote:

eric76 wrote:

auntblabby wrote:

when it comes to the ACA, I am damned thankful that he is standing up to those TP bullies. they can use these same bullyboy tactics to kill social security and medicare also.

and your 1] support of their current tactics and 2] denial that they are indeed the tactics of a bully, is not making any friends either, not that you care.

What makes you think I support them?

The Tea Party is a rather loose group based on a single idea -- lower taxes. They really have no guiding philosophy at all. When you get away from that single lower taxes idea, it is a real mishmash of seat of pants reasoning. Without a solid philosophy to guide them, I really don't think they'll be around long.

For your information, I have only ever voted for one Republican for President.

I do vote in the Republican Primaries, but that is because those are the only Primaries in my county.

I am basically an Independent who leans generally toward the Libertarians.

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03 Oct 2013, 12:13 am

They all suck, every last one of them. The president, the senators and the congressmen. The only people that should have those jobs are people that don't want them.

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03 Oct 2013, 12:15 am

eric76 wrote:

What makes you think I support them? The Tea Party is a rather loose group based on a single idea -- lower taxes. They really have no guiding philosophy at all. When you get away from that single lower taxes idea, it is a real mishmash of seat of pants reasoning. Without a solid philosophy to guide them, I really don't think they'll be around long. For your information, I have only ever voted for one Republican for President -- Gerald Ford.

mea culpa

I must concede that ford was a decent man.

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03 Oct 2013, 12:16 am

Mack27 wrote:

They all suck, every last one of them. The president, the senators and the congressmen. The only people that should have those jobs are people that don't want them.

I'd love to see them all making minimum wage and paying for their vacations out of their own pockets.

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03 Oct 2013, 12:17 am

term limits won't do any good unless you ban lobbyists also.

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03 Oct 2013, 12:18 am

auntblabby wrote:

eric76 wrote:

What makes you think I support them? The Tea Party is a rather loose group based on a single idea -- lower taxes. They really have no guiding philosophy at all. When you get away from that single lower taxes idea, it is a real mishmash of seat of pants reasoning. Without a solid philosophy to guide them, I really don't think they'll be around long. For your information, I have only ever voted for one Republican for President -- Gerald Ford.

mea culpa

I must concede that ford was a decent man.

That and he had a good, but not often recognized, sense of humor. I don't think he ever took himself too seriously.

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03 Oct 2013, 12:20 am

in terms of sense of humor, he joined Richard Nixon in gently lampooning himself on an NBC comedy program [laugh-in and Saturday night live]

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03 Oct 2013, 12:36 am

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in terms of sense of humor, he joined Richard Nixon in gently lampooning himself on an NBC comedy program [laugh-in and Saturday night live]

I missed that.

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03 Oct 2013, 12:39 am

eric76 wrote:

auntblabby wrote:

in terms of sense of humor, he joined Richard Nixon in gently lampooning himself on an NBC comedy program [laugh-in and Saturday night live]

I missed that.

I meant to say that they both but separately appeared on NBC comedy programs [Nixon on laugh-in, ford on SNL].

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