Bill Nye the science guy owns creationists.

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Ya know what, I am gonna attack religion.
If you believe in biblical creationism, you are a friggin IDIOT!
End of story.

I'm a Christian who accepts the theory of evolution. I can understand where young earth creationists are coming from, but I really don't think Genesis was meant to be scientific. The thing that scares me most is how dogmatic they can be about it. You can disagree with them about interpretation of prophecy or how God's sovereignty works, but if you're not a young earther or "biblical creationist" you're a "compromiser" who needs to repent. They give the rest of us Christians a bad reputation.

I understand what he's trying to say, but I think it's kind of ridiculous to imply that a creationist isn't going to make a good engineer or scientist in fields that are not evolution related.

I'm starting to think the idea of Natural Selection itself may be very important to fields other than biology. One possibility being Economics. Another might be Socialology. Natural Selection seems important to consider when thinking of any kind of process involving competition.

In Bill Nye's case, he is more of a chemist or engineer. That kind of background gives a person an informed perspective on the long geological processes the Earth or even the Solar System has gone through. Or even applying Geology and Engineering to modern day processes like Gas Fracking. To him, it's probably hard to imagine what a Creationist thinks about harvesting natural resources.

What this really comes down to though is being taught to Believe vs. being taught to Think and Reason.

If creationists "think and reason their way into rejecting evolution," then it is nearly certain they are basing their judgement on false information and faulty logic. Garbage in, garbage out. Creationist web sites, books, movies and speakers are notorious for ignoring much of the strongest evidence for evolution and denying or distorting what they do not ignore in a blatantly dishonest way.

I for one think it would be awesome if students actually were presented the young earth creationist viewpoint in science class, but only if they were then to be presented with the actual evidence and reasoning that falsifies such views. If they really were taught to reason critically from evidence using logic, these kids would go screaming home to their parents about being lied to by their church. Those creationists who want their religious ideas presented in public school science classrooms should really be careful what they wish for. IF it were done honestly, then their kids would see how deluded the parents are.

OTOH, many public school science teachers either are creationists themselves or are bending over backwards and walking on tippy toes to avoid offending parents who may be religious nut jobs. So if these ideas were forced into science classrooms where they do not belong, odds are that in many classrooms the students would not actually learn the strengths and weaknesses of competing ideas but would instead be dumbed down by lies and religious propaganda. Unfortunately that is happening already across the country and is one of the greatest shames of the United States of America public school system, even though landmark court cases such as Kitzmiller v. Dover show the "breathtaking inanity" (the words of Judge Jones) of those trying to cram obviously religious beliefs into science courses.