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Should Condie become President?
yes 40%  40%  [ 4 ]
no 50%  50%  [ 5 ]
Vermin Supreme but no Condie for Pres 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Vermin Supreme is a stupid meme, but still like Condie for Pres 10%  10%  [ 1 ]
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01 Apr 2014, 4:09 pm

Yes or no?
Please explain.

I vote yes, even though she isn't running. Also want Vermin Supreme as a Supreme Court Justice.


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01 Apr 2014, 4:11 pm

NO.



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01 Apr 2014, 4:39 pm

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
NO.


Why? Is it because she is loaded, or that she has tons of International and Federal political experience?


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01 Apr 2014, 5:08 pm

Maybe you could tell us who "Condie" is.......


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01 Apr 2014, 5:10 pm

appletheclown wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
NO.


Why? Is it because she is loaded, or that she has tons of International and Federal political experience?

Too much involvement in the Bush administration.



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01 Apr 2014, 5:17 pm

Raptor wrote:
Maybe you could tell us who "Condie" is.......


Condoleezza Rice


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01 Apr 2014, 5:18 pm

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
appletheclown wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
NO.


Why? Is it because she is loaded, or that she has tons of International and Federal political experience?

Too much involvement in the Bush administration.


I guess it's Condoleezza Rice.


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01 Apr 2014, 5:19 pm

appletheclown wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
NO.

Why? Is it because she is loaded, or that she has tons of International and Federal political experience?

Most likely because she is heavily associated with the policies of George W. Bush.

Her academic credentials are impeccable (Provost of the prestigious Stanford University from 1993 to 1999) and probably outshines all other realistic presidential candidates in 2016 on academic merits, but she was a central figure in the administration of a President who will likely mostly be remembered for his political incompetence.



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01 Apr 2014, 5:20 pm

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appletheclown wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
NO.

Why? Is it because she is loaded, or that she has tons of International and Federal political experience?

Most likely because she is heavily associated with the policies of George W. Bush.

Her academic credentials are impeccable (Provost of the prestigious Stanford University from 1993 to 1999) and probably outshines all other realistic presidential candidates in 2016 on academic merits, but she was a central figure in the administration of a President who will likely mostly be remembered for his political incompetence.


I don't believe in stigmas.


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01 Apr 2014, 5:21 pm

I wouldn't mind if she took a shot at it.
Of course, to not vote for her would be pure racism just like in '08 for those who didnt vote for Obama.


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01 Apr 2014, 5:24 pm

appletheclown wrote:
GGPViper wrote:
appletheclown wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
NO.

Why? Is it because she is loaded, or that she has tons of International and Federal political experience?

Most likely because she is heavily associated with the policies of George W. Bush.

Her academic credentials are impeccable (Provost of the prestigious Stanford University from 1993 to 1999) and probably outshines all other realistic presidential candidates in 2016 on academic merits, but she was a central figure in the administration of a President who will likely mostly be remembered for his political incompetence.

I don't believe in stigmas.

Ah, but many voters do.

And since the President is elected by voters (I know, not *directly*, but through the Electoral College), any stigma of this kind is highly relevant...



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01 Apr 2014, 5:24 pm

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I wouldn't mind if she took a shot at it.
Of course, to not vote for her would be pure racism just like in '08 for those who didnt vote for Obama.


Then if it was a choice between her and Obama, who would you pick?


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01 Apr 2014, 5:31 pm

GGPViper wrote:
appletheclown wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
NO.

Why? Is it because she is loaded, or that she has tons of International and Federal political experience?

Most likely because she is heavily associated with the policies of George W. Bush.

Her academic credentials are impeccable (Provost of the prestigious Stanford University from 1993 to 1999) and probably outshines all other realistic presidential candidates in 2016 on academic merits, but she was a central figure in the administration of a President who will likely mostly be remembered for his political incompetence.


The economic crisis was mostly caused by stuff beyond the president's reach ("A Home of Your Own" was not the only factor); a steep rise in oil prices between 2003 and 2008, the fact that the American car industry had been in a decline for more than a decade, predatory behaviour by private banks, and several screwups by the congress, should all get their share of the blame. Bush was not a good president, but I don't think Obama would have done a better job if he faced the same obstacles (take Cash for Clunkers, for instance).



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01 Apr 2014, 5:33 pm

Kurgan wrote:
GGPViper wrote:
appletheclown wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
NO.

Why? Is it because she is loaded, or that she has tons of International and Federal political experience?

Most likely because she is heavily associated with the policies of George W. Bush.

Her academic credentials are impeccable (Provost of the prestigious Stanford University from 1993 to 1999) and probably outshines all other realistic presidential candidates in 2016 on academic merits, but she was a central figure in the administration of a President who will likely mostly be remembered for his political incompetence.


The economic crisis was mostly caused by stuff beyond the president's reach ("A Home of Your Own" was not the only factor); a steep rise in oil prices between 2003 and 2008, the fact that the American car industry had been in a decline for more than a decade, predatory behaviour by private banks, and several screwups by the congress, should all get their share of the blame. Bush was not a good president, but I don't think Obama would have done a better job if he faced the same obstacles (take Cash for Clunkers, for instance).

It was caused by deregulation of banks and bad loans.



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01 Apr 2014, 5:33 pm

appletheclown wrote:
Raptor wrote:
I wouldn't mind if she took a shot at it.
Of course, to not vote for her would be pure racism just like in '08 for those who didnt vote for Obama.


Then if it was a choice between her and Obama, who would you pick?


1. Obama can't run again. He's had his two terms which were two terms too many.
2. I'm not a democrat
3. Rice would most likely be on the republican ticket
4. I'll let you fill in the blank: _________________________


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01 Apr 2014, 5:37 pm

Kurgan wrote:
GGPViper wrote:
appletheclown wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
NO.

Why? Is it because she is loaded, or that she has tons of International and Federal political experience?

Most likely because she is heavily associated with the policies of George W. Bush.

Her academic credentials are impeccable (Provost of the prestigious Stanford University from 1993 to 1999) and probably outshines all other realistic presidential candidates in 2016 on academic merits, but she was a central figure in the administration of a President who will likely mostly be remembered for his political incompetence.

The economic crisis was mostly caused by stuff beyond the president's reach ("A Home of Your Own" was not the only factor); a steep rise in oil prices between 2003 and 2008, the fact that the American car industry had been in a decline for more than a decade, predatory behaviour by private banks, and several screwups by the congress, should all get their share of the blame. Bush was not a good president, but I don't think Obama would have done a better job if he faced the same obstacles (take Cash for Clunkers, for instance).

I wasn't referring to the Financial Crisis. The blame lies equally on both US parties for that blunder.

What I was referring to was... Iraq. Iraq. Iraq. Iraq. Iraq. Iraq. Iraq. Iraq. Iraq. Iraq.

And because of the role of Condolezza Rice as National Security Advisor and then Secretary of State, much of the criticism of the Iraq War will automatically be directed at her.