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30 Jul 2016, 3:50 pm

Of course Trump supporters are going to say those kids were coached, since after all, kids, like blacks, Latinos, women, and Muslims all LOVE Trump! :P


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30 Jul 2016, 4:44 pm

It's funny how many left-leaning people (myself included) extremely reluctantly wish for Trump to win, for the singular reason that despite her superior PR, Hillary has the potential to do many orders of magnitude more damage than Trump could ever hope to do.


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30 Jul 2016, 4:55 pm

Thank you for this link--these kids are so clever, and hilarious! :lol:

This gives me hope for the future of America, if at least some of their kids are like this--they are so awake and informed, they have been paying attention. There is reason for hope.


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30 Jul 2016, 4:55 pm

Wolfram87 wrote:
It's funny how many left-leaning people (myself included) extremely reluctantly wish for Trump to win, for the singular reason that despite her superior PR, Hillary has the potential to do many orders of magnitude more damage than Trump could ever hope to do.


I'm seriously not afraid of her doing all that much damage. Just imagine a thinned skinned narcissist like Trump basing his actions as POTUS on his hurt feelings, or allowing himself to be manipulated by the likes of Putin who knows how to butter Trump up.


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30 Jul 2016, 5:50 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
Wolfram87 wrote:
It's funny how many left-leaning people (myself included) extremely reluctantly wish for Trump to win, for the singular reason that despite her superior PR, Hillary has the potential to do many orders of magnitude more damage than Trump could ever hope to do.


I'm seriously not afraid of her doing all that much damage. Just imagine a thinned skinned narcissist like Trump basing his actions as POTUS on his hurt feelings, or allowing himself to be manipulated by the likes of Putin who knows how to butter Trump up.


I'm less worried about Trumps thin skinned narcissism (which I certainly acknowledge), because I hope that the checks and balances of the American system will keep his more extreme idiocy in check. I do worry a bit about his isolationist tendencies, with regard to NATO and such once the Putin train leaves the station. The bottom line is that Trump is a bull in a china shop; he couldn't hide what he is or what he want if he tried.

I'm more worried about the borderline sociopath lawyer who can't seem to hold an opinion of her own without an opinion poll, with a history of opposing burgeoning democratic movements in third-world countries if it's against American interests, who throws pity parties for herself and prints actual "woman cards" to send to her supporters, who blatantly fabricated her alleged experience in Bosnia (claiming to have been under "sniper fire" where there was none). And that's not even getting into the e-mail leak thing, for which, last I heard, the idea is basically that she did very much pose a risk to national security, but she won't be prosecuted because reasons.


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30 Jul 2016, 7:18 pm

Wolfram87 wrote:
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Wolfram87 wrote:
It's funny how many left-leaning people (myself included) extremely reluctantly wish for Trump to win, for the singular reason that despite her superior PR, Hillary has the potential to do many orders of magnitude more damage than Trump could ever hope to do.


I'm seriously not afraid of her doing all that much damage. Just imagine a thinned skinned narcissist like Trump basing his actions as POTUS on his hurt feelings, or allowing himself to be manipulated by the likes of Putin who knows how to butter Trump up.


I'm less worried about Trumps thin skinned narcissism (which I certainly acknowledge), because I hope that the checks and balances of the American system will keep his more extreme idiocy in check. I do worry a bit about his isolationist tendencies, with regard to NATO and such once the Putin train leaves the station. The bottom line is that Trump is a bull in a china shop; he couldn't hide what he is or what he want if he tried.

I'm more worried about the borderline sociopath lawyer who can't seem to hold an opinion of her own without an opinion poll, with a history of opposing burgeoning democratic movements in third-world countries if it's against American interests, who throws pity parties for herself and prints actual "woman cards" to send to her supporters, who blatantly fabricated her alleged experience in Bosnia (claiming to have been under "sniper fire" where there was none). And that's not even getting into the e-mail leak thing, for which, last I heard, the idea is basically that she did very much pose a risk to national security, but she won't be prosecuted because reasons.


Not to excuse the sniper fire thing in Bosnia, but it has been shown that people who are sleep deprived often have false memories that they swear up and down are true, because they believe said memories are. I would imagine Clinton hasn't gotten much sleep in either the senate, or the state department.


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31 Jul 2016, 6:10 am

I've no doubt that is a thing that can happen. I don't think that's the case here. Her version is pretty much "the greeting ceremony was cancelled, and we had to duck our heads and run to the cars". Contemporary news coverage shows that the greeting ceremony did take place, complete with a poem reading by an 8 year old girl. When confronted with this, Hillary claimed she "misspoke". Misspoke in a way that just happened to make her sound like the brave first lady who darts through hostile lands with her own life at stake for the sake of diplomacy, rather than landing and walking off perfectly calmly in a heavily fortified military base in (admittedly still unstable) post-war Bosnia.

The Bosnia story isn't particularly important to me, but it's not the only example of her deceptive and malicious character. Check out her comments about the women who accused Bill Clinton of rape, and compare them to her more feminist-leaning rhetoric. Read the accounts from former white house staff about how she's widely known for being abusive of staff and of her husband (verbally and physically). The only good that can come out of a Clinton presidency is watching the Saudis squirm when they have to play nice with a woman head of state.

Much as I'd prefer neither of them, I'll take the bloviating self-important caveman and his phantom wall over the mythomaniacal shrew with the persecution complex.



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Worth a watch.


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