OK, I have a disability, but I'm more right-wing

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I feel like a bit of an outsider when people want to strongly associate tolerance of those with disabilities with left-wing politics. I actually find it quite offensive when people say that the right doesn't want to help those with disabilities. What I don't want is the government to mandate that others coddle me because of my autism. I think if the government should coddle people, it should be everyone regardless of whether they have autism or not.

Obamacare was initially touted as "free" healthcare, then "affordable" and, now, it is responsible for increasing costs for patients; sometimes many times over. Clearly, the icon of American liberalism has failed its own promises, whatever else it has done.

For better or worse, however, mandating the coddling of everyone by others resides our common law and simple sense of fair play. Governments, schools, workplaces and public accommodations (otherwise known as "the public square") are expected under public policy to play fairly regardless of differences among people including disabilities.

But, the good news is that those of us who are legally disabled may opt out of such coddling, or at least find a happy level of support commensurate to the level of attendent humiliation. As others Wrong Planetians have written, it is often easier to withhold disclosing one's autism than to accommodate the results of disclosing. For many others, including myself, it is more difficult to disguise certain psychological or physical disabilities. This means opting out would be much more involved. But, at least the attempt to mitigate one's life conditions is somewhat mutable. "Better" isn't always "best," but it is still better than nothing.

The fact of the matter is that right-wing capitalists usually want to help no one but their shareholders - it's their organizations' whole point - and while all politicians may be corrupt right-wing ones frequently award those same capitalists, resulting in a cycle of concentration of wealth, whether it's through cutting corporation/inheritance tax, but happily going along with the poll tax (which in the end was Thatcher's downfall). This, ultimately, hits disabled people (since they're disadvantaged) especially if, in addition to giving advantages to those who already have them, more is taken away from the disabled, whether personally, educational institutions, or a lack of infrastructure investment.

You see, I don't like having the so-called "minority" status as having a sort of disability.

But you do, and you can't change that.

I don't see disability support as government coddling, but as a safety net. Right wing politicians usually advocate that the responsibility of a safety net belongs to the private sector. My problem with that reasoning is that many people who need the most help don't have the societal means to not fall through the cracks (more often, anyway). There is an assumption that there are friends, family, or church to fall back on which isn't applicable in many cases.

Having a disability in no way obligates you to support left wing politics, despite what many on this board will tell you.

As am I.

I'm not a fan of social liberalism (which is your basic modern left-wing ideology), as it puts the group before the individual in regards to freedoms. I'd rather the freedoms of the individual as someone that's disabled; I'd rather be able to carry a firearm for my protection (I need not bring up stats for disabled people receiving abuse), for example.

People will say things like, but you want to subjugate da gayz! You're racist! You hate womenz! No, gay rights fit perfectly into right wing liberalism. Just as egalitarianism fits into the same. As does equal rights feminism.

There's lots of boogeymen attached to right wing stances, with said boogeymen there simply due to scaremongering by talking heads to stifle the opposition. Of course, I'm sure there's the same for the left wing, but if you compare the amount of thought terminating negative buzz words, the right clearly is treated unfairly nowadays.

The left in the past had this bias against it too, with social liberalism getting ze Commie tag, for example.

Well in what way would the right like to help those with disabilities? I wouldn't be into excessive coddling that doesn't leave any room to grow/develop as a person, however a policy of no government programs to help the disabled and not requiring reasonable accommodation for disabled and such probably wouldn't be very conductive either.

So you figure it would be better if it just isn't acknowledged for any of us?

The Hospital for Special Care in Connecticut has been running TV ads selling their autism services. If you are rich you don't need government programs--you can buy the best help that is available. You may not even want such programs, as everyone expects the rich to pay for them with higher taxes. Why should you have to pay higher taxes when you aren't even going to use those services--because you can afford to buy better services from the private sector.

Dox, despite whatever you say you provided no evidence whatsoever...

Dillogic should also provide specific examples of where anyone helped... all great and well to mock ideologies, but I provided historical examples, so whichever country it may be which right-wing politician ever went out of their way to help...?

What's with so many people holding opinions these days with no evidence? Seriously...

I'm sorry, what "evidence" do I need to post to support the stance that disability does not obligate someone to support left wing policy? I mean, I'm kind of used to you not making sense at this point, but still.

Historical? A shred of evidence that they actually care about anyone besides rich people? You're not making sense simply because you don't say much.

Well good for rich people, however most people aren't rich so what is the government going to do to help people with disabilities that aren't rich? The O.P says they are frustrated people think the right doesn't want to do anything to help disabled people I am simply asking what it is they do want to do to help.

So far your answer is reasons why you think the government/right shouldn't help the disabled, and suggests you think the proper solution is 'at least the wealthy can afford services from the private sector.' not sure how that's a solution but whatever.

Did you notice that I didn't say anything about the right? Not that it would matter if I did, the right could be as terrible as you think, and disabled people still wouldn't be obligated to support the left.

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