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26 Jul 2017, 12:26 pm

The name Mohammad is given to sons to show respect. Why is the name Jesus not given the same respect?

Many cultures pass on names of those they wish to show respect to. The Muslim community pass on the name Mohamad more than Christians do with the name of Jesus. This name respect is lacking in the Christian cultures.

I think it is due to the fact that none in the Abrahamic cults can justify Yahweh/Jesus’ genocide of mankind.

Yahweh’s son Jesus has not been deemed worthy of respect for moral reasons. Christians recognize the imperfections and agree with the ostracising of the name Jesus. Hence their not passing on the name and showing disrespect. Jesus is as unworthy to literal reading people in the myriad of Christian cults, as is Yahweh.

Are the myriad of Christian and Catholic cults showing a lack of respect for the name of Jesus as compared to the respect Muslims show the name Mohammad?

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26 Jul 2017, 1:12 pm

I know lots of Jesus's lol

must be in the wrong part of the country



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26 Jul 2017, 1:17 pm

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I know lots of Jesus's lol

must be in the wrong part of the country


You must live in Mexico or South America.

I am in North America.

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26 Jul 2017, 1:54 pm

GnosticBishop wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
I know lots of Jesus's lol

must be in the wrong part of the country


You must live in Mexico or South America.

I am in North America.

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close enough, Arizona :P

a lot of names we hear are derived or are from the new and old testament, hence the term a Christian name



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26 Jul 2017, 1:58 pm

Jacoby wrote:
GnosticBishop wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
I know lots of Jesus's lol

must be in the wrong part of the country


You must live in Mexico or South America.

I am in North America.

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close enough, Arizona :P

a lot of names we hear are derived or are from the new and old testament, hence the term a Christian name


:D :D

Yes, good old Middle Eastern English names like Peter, Paul and Mary.

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26 Jul 2017, 2:05 pm

In the Spanish speaking world its perfectly fine to name your son "HEY! Zeus" (Jesus).

In the English speaking world that's considered blasphemy.

But the English speaking world does have zillions of boy, and girl names, like Christopher, Christine, Kirsten, Kristen, that are derived from the word "Christ".



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26 Jul 2017, 2:11 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
In the Spanish speaking world its perfectly fine to name your son "HEY! Zeus" (Jesus).

In the English speaking world that's considered blasphemy.

But the English speaking world does have zillions of boy, and girl names, like Christopher, Christine, Kirsten, Kristen, that are derived from the word "Christ".


That might be true but it is not Jesus. He get's no respect as compared to Mohammad.

The right way to say it is Jesus the Christ. Christ is more of a title while Jesus is more of a name.

It means Jesus the anointed one.

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26 Jul 2017, 3:00 pm

GnosticBishop wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
In the Spanish speaking world its perfectly fine to name your son "HEY! Zeus" (Jesus).

In the English speaking world that's considered blasphemy.

But the English speaking world does have zillions of boy, and girl names, like Christopher, Christine, Kirsten, Kristen, that are derived from the word "Christ".


That might be true but it is not Jesus. He get's no respect as compared to Mohammad.

The right way to say it is Jesus the Christ. Christ is more of a title while Jesus is more of a name.

It means Jesus the anointed one.

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Yeah I know that it's "Jesus the Christ".

Jesus was the human guy chosen to be "The Christ" ( ie the divine savior from above).

The Anglosaxon world allows names that derive from the title of the guy, but not from the guy's name.

But the Spanish Speaking World allows you to name your boy child after the guy. But the reason that the Anglosphere forbids that is also out of "respect". The two culture do opposite things but both out of respect.

Jesus is not Rodney Dangerfield. He cant complain that he doesn't get any respect.

Comparing Jesus to Mohammed is peaches to pears. Mohammed was not himself divine. Not the son of God. Just a mortal prophet. So he isn't quite the same as Jesus the Christ.



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26 Jul 2017, 5:10 pm

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But the Spanish Speaking World allows you to name your boy child after the guy. But the reason that the Anglosphere forbids that is also out of "respect". The two culture do opposite things but both out of respect.

Jesus is not Rodney Dangerfield. He cant complain that he doesn't get any respect.

Comparing Jesus to Mohammed is peaches to pears. Mohammed was not himself divine. Not the son of God. Just a mortal prophet. So he isn't quite the same as Jesus the Christ.


Agreed. In the West, refraining from using the name Jesus IS an act of respect. The bible commands that the name of God not be used in vain, and since among Christians, Jesus IS God, the name Jesus demands the same consideration.

If you believe that name belonged to God himself and the most unique and holy person to ever walk the face of the Earth, it would be disrespectful to pretend that one's children were of such special stature to warrant bearing that name.

It seems beyond absurd that the Muslims feel naming every cabbage-head baby they pop out after Mohammed, like George Foreman naming all his kids George, yet if you so much as sketch a picture to represent Mohammed, they'll slaughter you for disrespecting him. :roll:


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27 Jul 2017, 2:10 am

I rarely met local male Christians with the name "Yasouh" either (about 40% of population are Christians here), local Saint names are way more common like : Charbel, Anthony, Elias, Maroun, Yaacoub....etc.

A fundamental difference between Mohammad and Jesus, Jesus is seen as the religion in flesh by Christians; while Mohammad is seen as a human prophet.
For instance, a Muslim sunni (my neighbor) told me how he went to pilgrimage in Saudi Arabia and he tried to bow on one knee in front of Mohammad's claimed burial place to recite a certain prayer (Al kursi) , as it is a common tradition done to the dead relatives - he got slapped by the religious saudi guard there, telling him it's a so un-islamic act because Mohammad shouldn't be treated divinely.
So it seems that praying to the dead and offering flowers on the graveyards....are old remnant Christian traditions, probably passed from Christians ancestors among some Muslim communities (like in Syria and Lebanon) because none of the Gulf countries practice those and are even seen un-islamic by them.

For that, I think Jesus is to equated to the name "Islam", not to the name of Mohammad, Islam is a very rare female name among the muslim communities.



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27 Jul 2017, 2:34 am

Early New England was chock full of Hebrew prophets and prophetesses -- thousands of Samuels and Isaacs and Jeremiahs and Ezekiels and Zechariahs and Abrahams and Abigails and Rachels and Sarahs. I'm a descendant of a long line of Zechariahs, in fact. But never a Jesus, to be sure.


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27 Jul 2017, 4:52 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
I rarely met local male Christians with the name "Yasouh" either (about 40% of population are Christians here), local Saint names are way more common like : Charbel, Anthony, Elias, Maroun, Yaacoub....etc.

A fundamental difference between Mohammad and Jesus, Jesus is seen as the religion in flesh by Christians; while Mohammad is seen as a human prophet.
For instance, a Muslim sunni (my neighbor) told me how he went to pilgrimage in Saudi Arabia and he tried to bow on one knee in front of Mohammad's claimed burial place to recite a certain prayer (Al kursi) , as it is a common tradition done to the dead relatives - he got slapped by the religious saudi guard there, telling him it's a so un-islamic act because Mohammad shouldn't be treated divinely.
So it seems that praying to the dead and offering flowers on the graveyards....are old remnant Christian traditions, probably passed from Christians ancestors among some Muslim communities (like in Syria and Lebanon) because none of the Gulf countries practice those and are even seen un-islamic by them.

For that, I think Jesus is to equated to the name "Islam", not to the name of Mohammad, Islam is a very rare female name among the muslim communities.


"Islam" literally means "surrender".

Even if I were Muslim I would be terrified to name my daughter "surrender" (if you get my drift)! Lol!



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27 Jul 2017, 5:51 am

You are incorrect about nobody getting named Jesus.

Lots of people of Hispanic/Latino Mexican and South American heritage are indeed named Jesus. Jesus is a popular name in Mexico and the US southwest. It's spelled Jesus, pronounced "hehzuuss". And yes that IS the "same name." They pronounce it differently simply because of the Spanish soft J. It's the same name.



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27 Jul 2017, 10:43 am

naturalplastic wrote:
GnosticBishop wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
In the Spanish speaking world its perfectly fine to name your son "HEY! Zeus" (Jesus).

In the English speaking world that's considered blasphemy.

But the English speaking world does have zillions of boy, and girl names, like Christopher, Christine, Kirsten, Kristen, that are derived from the word "Christ".


That might be true but it is not Jesus. He get's no respect as compared to Mohammad.

The right way to say it is Jesus the Christ. Christ is more of a title while Jesus is more of a name.

It means Jesus the anointed one.

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Yeah I know that it's "Jesus the Christ".

Jesus was the human guy chosen to be "The Christ" ( ie the divine savior from above).

The Anglosaxon world allows names that derive from the title of the guy, but not from the guy's name.

But the Spanish Speaking World allows you to name your boy child after the guy. But the reason that the Anglosphere forbids that is also out of "respect". The two culture do opposite things but both out of respect.

Jesus is not Rodney Dangerfield. He cant complain that he doesn't get any respect.

Comparing Jesus to Mohammed is peaches to pears. Mohammed was not himself divine. Not the son of God. Just a mortal prophet. So he isn't quite the same as Jesus the Christ.


To believe your last, you have to believe that God can die.

You go ahead and keep that belief.

You would also have to ignore all these to maintain the Jesus savior motif.

Ezekiel 18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.

Deuteronomy 24:16 (ESV) "Fathers shall not be put to death because of their children, nor shall children be put to death because of their fathers. Each one shall be put to death for his own sin.

Ezekiel 18:20 (ESV) The soul who sins shall die. The son shall not suffer for the iniquity of the father, nor the father suffer for the iniquity of the son. The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself.

Are you ready to ignore all those to save your immoral support for the punishment of the innocent instead of the guilty?

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27 Jul 2017, 10:58 am

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You are incorrect about nobody getting named Jesus.

Lots of people of Hispanic/Latino Mexican and South American heritage are indeed named Jesus. Jesus is a popular name in Mexico and the US southwest. It's spelled Jesus, pronounced "hehzuuss". And yes that IS the "same name." They pronounce it differently simply because of the Spanish soft J. It's the same name.


Granted that Mexico and South America use the name Jesus.

That adds to my wondering why other Christian nations do not follow suit.

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27 Jul 2017, 11:00 am

Darmok wrote:
Early New England was chock full of Hebrew prophets and prophetesses -- thousands of Samuels and Isaacs and Jeremiahs and Ezekiels and Zechariahs and Abrahams and Abigails and Rachels and Sarahs. I'm a descendant of a long line of Zechariahs, in fact. But never a Jesus, to be sure.


It almost seems that the Jewish prophets are honored by not Jesus.

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