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04 Mar 2017, 10:09 am

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/04/asia/china-npc-military-budget/index.html
At 2:10 he talks about a couple that was abducted from their home so that the land could be seized by corrupt government officials for economic development. The land is extremely valuable. Could that happen here? To fulfill the promise of jobs for everyone?



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04 Mar 2017, 11:03 am

Our transparency is going down every day. I suppose if our corruption reaches higher than Russia's level, which is probably the conservatives' intention, it could.


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04 Mar 2017, 11:09 am

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a couple that was abducted from their home so that the land could be seized by corrupt government officials for economic development.

It has happened here.

Susette Kelo dreamed of owning a home that looked out over the water. She purchased and lovingly restored her little pink house where the Thames River meets the Long Island Sound in 1997, and had enjoyed the great view from its windows. The Dery family, up the street from Susette, had lived in Fort Trumbull since 1895; Matt Dery and his family lived next door to his mother and father. Matt’s mother was born in her house in 1918 and had never lived anywhere else. The richness and vibrancy of this neighborhood reflected the American ideal of community and the dream of homeownership.

Tragically, the City of New London turned that dream into a nightmare.

In 1998, pharmaceutical giant Pfizer built a plant next to Fort Trumbull and the City determined that someone else could make better use of the land than the Fort Trumbull residents. The City handed over its power of eminent domain—the ability to take private property for public use—to the New London Development Corporation (NLDC), a private body, to take the entire neighborhood for private development. As the Fort Trumbull neighbors found out, when private entities wield government’s awesome power of eminent domain and can justify taking property with the nebulous claim of “economic development,” all homeowners are in trouble.


http://ij.org/case/kelo/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelo_v._C ... New_London
http://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/boo ... 45315.html


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04 Mar 2017, 12:13 pm

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It happens all the time and it is perfectly legal. It is called Eminent domain in the United States and the Philippines, Compulsory purchase in the United Kingdom, New Zealand and Ireland, Resumption in Hong Kong, resumption/compulsory acquisition in Australia, and expropriation in France, Mexico, South Africa, Canada, Brazil, Portugal, and Spain.

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The first is through a forced sale. Typically, the government decides that there needs to be a new road or some other public structure in the same place as privately owned real estate. The homeowners would then be forced to sell their land to the government in a power that is known as "eminent domain."

Sometimes, the government can take away private real estate even without paying the homeowner. First, if the property was used in certain types of crimes, the government can seize it. The crime needs to be connected to the property in some fashion, such as the creation or distribution of illegal drugs. Second, most states can seize property if the property appears to be abandoned for a certain amount of time.


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04 Mar 2017, 6:45 pm

Eminent Domain was employed copiously to build the highways around New York City.



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05 Mar 2017, 10:33 pm

Darmok wrote:
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a couple that was abducted from their home so that the land could be seized by corrupt government officials for economic development.

It has happened here.

Susette Kelo dreamed of owning a home that looked out over the water. She purchased and lovingly restored her little pink house where the Thames River meets the Long Island Sound in 1997, and had enjoyed the great view from its windows. The Dery family, up the street from Susette, had lived in Fort Trumbull since 1895; Matt Dery and his family lived next door to his mother and father. Matt’s mother was born in her house in 1918 and had never lived anywhere else. The richness and vibrancy of this neighborhood reflected the American ideal of community and the dream of homeownership.

Tragically, the City of New London turned that dream into a nightmare.

In 1998, pharmaceutical giant Pfizer built a plant next to Fort Trumbull and the City determined that someone else could make better use of the land than the Fort Trumbull residents. The City handed over its power of eminent domain—the ability to take private property for public use—to the New London Development Corporation (NLDC), a private body, to take the entire neighborhood for private development. As the Fort Trumbull neighbors found out, when private entities wield government’s awesome power of eminent domain and can justify taking property with the nebulous claim of “economic development,” all homeowners are in trouble.


http://ij.org/case/kelo/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelo_v._C ... New_London
http://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/boo ... 45315.html


Pfizer, eh?
If the way pharmaceutical companies f**k over the consumer wasn't already bad enough...
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16 Apr 2018, 7:07 pm

A new film out this week on Kelo vs. New London, one of the great travesties of justice in our time:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUptZEZdT-M

http://littlepinkhousemovie.com/


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16 Apr 2018, 10:16 pm

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18 Apr 2018, 9:17 pm

Here's some more about the new Kelo movie (trailer above):

"Little Pink House" Brings the Kelo Case to the Big Screen
An impressive new movie dramatizes the story behind the famous Supreme Court case about whether it is permissible for the government to condemn homes in order to promote private "economic development."

The soon-to-be-released independent film Little Pink House dramatizes the story behind Kelo v. City of New London, the notorious 2005 Supreme Court decision in which the justices ruled that it is permissible for the government to condemn homes in order to promote "economic development." Although the Fifth Amendment only permits the taking of private property for "public use," a narrow 5-4 majority ruled that a taking that transfers property to private developers is permissible. The Kelo case generated a massive public reaction, with over 80% of Americans opposing the ruling, and 45 states passing reform laws intended to restrict the use of eminent domain for private development. No other case united such disparate people and groups as the NAACP, libertarian property rights advocates, Ralph Nader, and Rush Limbaugh.

Little Pink House, loosely based on journalist Jeff Benedict's book of the same name, does an excellent job of portraying the human drama that led to Supreme Court decision. It shows how a group of lower-middle class New London, Connecticut homeowners found themselves steamrolled by a plan to take their land in order to facilitate a development project backed by powerful political forces, including Connecticut Governor John Rowland, the New London Development Corporation (the private organization that planned and conducted the takings on behalf of the City of New London), and Pfizer, Inc., a major pharmaceutical firm that hoped to benefit from the development project. The film depicts how Susette Kelo - owner of the iconic "Little Pink House" that became a nationally known symbol of the case - and her neighbors did all they could to resist the seizure of their land through the political process, but were overmatched by powerful opponents. It also portrays some (but by no means all) of the extralegal harrassment by which the NLDC sought to pressure owners to sell "voluntarily." These shenanigans included such tactics as menacing late night phone calls, dumping of waste on the resisting owners' property, and locking out tenants during cold winter weather.


https://reason.com/volokh/2018/04/18/li ... elo-case-t


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18 Apr 2018, 9:28 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
Eventually anything can happen here, if it hasn't already.


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18 Apr 2018, 9:53 pm

DarthMetaKnight wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Eventually anything can happen here, if it hasn't already.


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