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Is feminism good
Poll ended at 26 Oct 2019, 2:31 am
Good 55%  55%  [ 21 ]
Bad 34%  34%  [ 13 ]
Unsure 11%  11%  [ 4 ]
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26 Oct 2018, 2:31 am

It says it all in the title.



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26 Oct 2018, 2:54 am

The ones who are pro-equal rights are very good. The radical, Andrea Dworkin, Germaine Greer-types, not so much.


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26 Oct 2018, 3:01 am

Sometimes there is a thing some feminist states that I agree to.
There can be some other thing some feminist states that I disagree to.
I have no opinion on "feminism" as a whole, there are lots of various statements I consider separately.

For me personally, feminism has done enough and the best I can do is to have a meaningful life with the opportunities I have.


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26 Oct 2018, 4:41 am

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If you don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it. Ferris Bueller: It's not that i support facsism or any ism for that matter. Isms in my opinion are not good. A person should not believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.


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26 Oct 2018, 8:27 am

I am for equal rights and opportunities for everyone, regardless of circumstances of birth, upbringing, having well-connected relatives or friends, religion, sex, ethnicity, race, caste, or involuntary personal attributes such as disability, age, gender identity, or sexual orientation.

I am against what currently passes for feminism, which seems to be geared toward the goal of making all men living today "pay" for the crimes committed by other men in the past -- crimes that inspired the first generation of feminists, and that were committed by men who have been dead for decades.



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26 Oct 2018, 8:54 am

Define what you think "feminism" is, and I'll tell you my opinion on it.


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26 Oct 2018, 9:06 am

XFilesGeek wrote:
Define what you think "feminism" is, and I'll tell you my opinion on it.
Equal rights and opportunities for everyone, regardless of circumstances of birth, upbringing, having well-connected relatives or friends, religion, sex, ethnicity, race, caste, or involuntary personal attributes such as disability, age, gender identity, or sexual orientation.

Actually, that is more like Egalitarianism -- a school of thought that prioritizes equality for all people simply because all humans are equal in fundamental worth and social status. "A commoner can look in the eye of a king" as it were.

To paraphrase George Orwell, I define modern-day "Feminism", as "A school of thought which teaches that all humans are equal, but that females are more equal than males".

Just my Cr0.02, for what it's worth.



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26 Oct 2018, 9:29 am

I don't think about it very much. When asked to think about it, I appreciate being asked cordially and as an equal.



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26 Oct 2018, 9:33 am

Fnord wrote:
"A commoner can look in the eye of a king" as it were.



Isn't that a common autistic trait ? ( not the eye looking thing ) , seeing everyone the same whether they be police , king or a stranger on the street.


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26 Oct 2018, 9:42 am

I voted unsure. I support equality and I sympathize with women who get treated like crap but I also hate modern feminists because it does seem like they are out to punish men and blame them for all the evil in this world. They accuse them all of being rapists, abusers, and murderers. It also bothers me whenever I hear women in countries like the U.S. complain about how horrible they have it when there are countries out there that treat their women MUCH worse than we do! At least American women can choose who they want to marry and divorce their husbands. American women aren't punished by their families or community when they get raped, they don't get beaten with a cane before a large crowd for commiting adultery, and they are also allowed to get an education and work the same jobs as men. Oh yes American women have it so horrible! :roll:

Edit: Oh and American women aren't forced to get their genitals mutilated either.



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26 Oct 2018, 10:21 am

TW1ZTY wrote:
I voted unsure. I support equality and I sympathize with women who get treated like crap but I also hate modern feminists because it does seem like they are out to punish men and blame them for all the evil in this world. They accuse them all of being rapists, abusers, and murderers. It also bothers me whenever I hear women in countries like the U.S. complain about how horrible they have it when there are countries out there that treat their women MUCH worse than we do! At least American women can choose who they want to marry and divorce their husbands. American women aren't punished by their families or community when they get raped, they don't get beaten with a cane before a large crowd for commiting adultery, and they are also allowed to get an education and work the same jobs as men. Oh yes American women have it so horrible! :roll:

Edit: Oh and American women aren't forced to get their genitals mutilated either.


It’s all tied almost solely to abortion.

(Note: I am not advocating restricting abortion, nor am I saying it isn’t an important issue. I am stating that other women’s issues should warrant more attention)


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26 Oct 2018, 11:03 am

Tim_Tex wrote:
TW1ZTY wrote:
I voted unsure. I support equality and I sympathize with women who get treated like crap but I also hate modern feminists because it does seem like they are out to punish men and blame them for all the evil in this world. They accuse them all of being rapists, abusers, and murderers. It also bothers me whenever I hear women in countries like the U.S. complain about how horrible they have it when there are countries out there that treat their women MUCH worse than we do! At least American women can choose who they want to marry and divorce their husbands. American women aren't punished by their families or community when they get raped, they don't get beaten with a cane before a large crowd for commiting adultery, and they are also allowed to get an education and work the same jobs as men. Oh yes American women have it so horrible! :roll:

Edit: Oh and American women aren't forced to get their genitals mutilated either.


It’s all tied almost solely to abortion.

(Note: I am not advocating restricting abortion, nor am I saying it isn’t an important issue. I am stating that other women’s issues should warrant more attention)


I understand abortion is a very sensitive issue so I'm not even going to get into that.

But it really does bug me hearing American women complain about "how bad they have it". It's like they're so ungrateful for the rights and privileges they get to enjoy that other women around the world do not. Hell even if you went back 100 years in this country when they couldn't vote or get a divorce they still probably had it better compared to women in most other countries.



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26 Oct 2018, 11:17 am

If you go along with the literal definition of it, it is a good thing because of equal rights but with people we have today who define themselves as feminists, it doesn't have a good name to it so I am starting to dislike feminism.


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26 Oct 2018, 11:22 am

Gloria Steinem stated that feminism is the revolutionary notion that women are people.
Women have a 1 in 4 chance of being assaulted, and a 1 in 6 chance of being raped.
Women earn 22% less than a male for the same work.
Clearly, we need a lot more feminists in this world.



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26 Oct 2018, 11:53 am

I remember having a conversation with my Mom and I had mentioned something about the thing I heard from some documentary on TV about there being more baby girls born than baby boys nowadays and I made a joke about how pretty soon we would be living in an Amazonian society and my Mom made the comment "That would be wonderful" but then she paused for a brief moment realizing how cruel that must sound for a mother to say that to her own son and she said "I would miss my boys though".

I think my Mom actually hates men, but she still loves her sons so saying something like that must have made her realize for a brief moment that hating men also means that she is hating her own children.

Maybe men who have daughters would feel the same way if they said something very disrespectful about women in front of them?



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26 Oct 2018, 12:12 pm

I resist all resentment fuelled stormtroopers of Normalisation whatever their genitals, race, ethnicity or religion.