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For all the horrid things, said about Islam, I have always found it more than a bit ironic that a couple of the world's most infamous tyrants, Joseph Stalin and Adolf Hitler (dare I make mention of them), were born into the Christian Faith, rather than the Mohammedan one. Indeed, Stalin was originally Eastern Orthodox; Hitler, Roman Catholic. And, the Christian Faith was precisely where both tyrants got their ideas about the Jewish people from.

Indeed, despite what the Televangelist preachers say, Christianity, as such, is no more pro-Jewish than any form of Islam. And, that is precisely why I do not believe that the Televangelists really love either the Jews, or The State of Israel. Indeed, the State of Israel is a place of quarantine, a rubbish bin if one will, where the Christian Televangelists hope to exile Jewish people, when the time comes. Turns my stomach to ponder the sheer and utter hypocrisy of it all.

Are you suggesting that Hitler wouldn’t have been Hitler if he’d been born a Muslim?

I would give Christianity and Judaism an edge over Islamic theology. The subjection of women in predominantly Islamic countries is extremely obvious, and from my reading of the Qu’ran so far, yikes! I’d say that it’s worse than the Old Testament.

If someone wants to be evil, he or she could probably find ample justification for it in the Qu’ran. I’ve already found a scripture that seems to condone marital rape, so there you go!

“Your women are your sowing field; approach your field whenever you please.”

As a disclaimer, most Muslims focus on the good stuff like Christians and Jews do with the Bible. I just can’t stomach the notion of burqas and things of that ilk. Also, from my limited experience, it seems like predominantly Islamic countries don’t place a very high value on human rights which may have something to do with poverty, limited access to resources and education, power hungry leaders with few checks and balances in place, as well as the harshness of their religious text. That’s just my two cents!

I greatly appreciate Islamic art, though.

That is a very interesting reply. You caught my attention. What else does it say in the Quran?

That is a very interesting reply. You caught my attention. What else does it say in the Quran?

I’ve not read that much yet. Apparently, it gets worse towards the end.

So far, there’s been some bizarre passages that basically say that if you even have a thought out of line you’re going to be burning in torment. Directly after each of these passages, it says “Allah is all-loving and just” - silly stuff like that. It’d be laugh-out-loud funny if it wasn’t so sad.

There was also an uplifting scripture that said that we should seek revenge on our enemies by inflicting the same pain on them that they inflicted on us.

The word “Islam” means submission which is rather telling in my opinion...

If I was a spiritual person, I’d prefer words like “namaste” - the divine in me bows to the divine in you. Much more friendly and humanistic.

I don’t like religions that stress how lowly I am. It’s excessively boring, and I’ve had enough of it. I wasn’t a Muslim but a Christian fundamentalist is pretty darn close!

I wouldn't call them boring. When Christians start getting too self-righteous I remind them that we're all sinners.

You would get bored if you heard it repeatedly.

It’s also not great when one is working on self esteem. It’s one of the more unhealthy aspects of religion in my opinion.

I would always accompany such teachings during sermons at church with an eye roll.

People are pretty darn awesome. Look at all we’ve accomplished.

I’m sure God would get annoyed at people constantly pestering Him through repeated expressions of worship.

Even a Divine Being needs some sleep every now and then.

He’d probably be annoyed and bored by the sheer repetitiveness of it all:

Thank you for food (I’m not thanking him for food because people regularly die from starvation, so I feel uncomfortable for thanking him for feeding me - always have. Anyway, why should I thank him for something that’s necessary for survival?)

I’m a lowly, miserable sinner.

Thank you for...(it’s often for things that the person has achieved in his or her own right.)

I do think that prayer can be helpful in a meditative sort of way and can help one sort through emotions. I prefer meditation, though, and derive more comfort from it than when I used to pray to God, probably because I didn’t care very much for the god I was praying to. I, frankly, viewed him with contempt.

I don't have a problem with Islam at all.

What I have a problem with----is those nutty sects which invoke the name of Islam to justify murder.

Hitler and Stalin really weren't exactly "devout" Christians. Stalin was not SUPPOSED to be a Christian; atheism was the "state religion" of the USSR, and it was actively persecuted until the demise of the USSR. He would have been out on his butt had there been any evidence that he practiced Christianity.

Hitler wasn't exactly "church-going," either.

I have a problem with any religion that requires women to wear head coverings and/or extremely modest attire and has different expectations, requirements, rules, and levels of authority based on gender.

Ye olde "Bait and Switch", eh? You lead off with an expressed subject line of one religion only to draw people in to your slam against another religion. Why not be honest and use a more appropriate subject line?

Do you think murder is not justifiable within Islam? Sorry, but "not real islam" is about as credible as "not real Socialism".




"My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice... And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people."

-Adolf Hitler, in a speech on 12 April 1922

Plus he has got a birthday and Christmas just around the corner. That's enough to be dealing with as it is.

I've heard Christians say that Hitler was only pretending to be a Christian so that he could gain support from the predominantly Christian population.

They think this redeems Christianity. It does not. It just shows Christians can easily be lead by a man pretending to be a Christian.