Do you believe that conservatives are alive?

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25 Feb 2009, 9:34 am

Did you ever wonder why so many people seem to lack common sense?
People who are unable to have an open mind and to think for themselves, who ignore the obvious for the sake of being like the mainstream may just be robots in disguise.



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25 Feb 2009, 9:58 am

They are a lot like the borg offa StarTrek, aren't they?



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25 Feb 2009, 10:17 am

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They are a lot like the borg offa StarTrek, aren't they?


If that is so, the resistance is futile.

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25 Feb 2009, 10:32 am

I used to think I might be schizophrenic because I always have this inner dialogue.
Most people, or so I was told, do not have this inner voice. It's actually me just thinking.
But, lots of people don't think. They just follow rules or do what is expected of them.

However, if I am a high functioning schizophrenic, I do like it for the most part.
At least I can think for myself.

Does anyone else have a constant inner dialogue going on?



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25 Feb 2009, 10:42 am

I'm not sure what the term "conservative" has to do with your secondary question...

That is, unless you have succumbed to the illigitamate description of "conservative" as "religious bigot" when it means no such thing.

There are people in all areas of the political spectrum who lack common sense.

A good example would be the illogocal desire to recieve from the government without putting in...


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25 Feb 2009, 10:49 am

Well, let me put it to you this way: If conservatives aren't alive, you must believe in the supernatural, because if conservatives aren't alive, then I've come back from the grave! :P

I am in a much more moderate mindset these days, weighing the arguments -- both flawed and true -- of both liberals and conservatives, while realizing how amazingly like each other they actually are. And they seem to have no clue about that mutual similarity. The fact is, success is a mixture of liberal and conservative philosophies. You can't get anywhere in life by being 100% conservative or 100% liberal.

Jesus is still my hero, and will always be, and He was no right-winger, neither was He a left-winger. :idea:

In direct answer to the OP, I will say that anyone -- liberal or conservative -- who constantly thinks in circles isn't living.
By thinking in circles, I mean seeing nothing but fulfilments of your own exact personal philosophy everywhere you look, instead of seeing real life!



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25 Feb 2009, 11:54 am

Magnus wrote:
Did you ever wonder why so many people seem to lack common sense?
People who are unable to have an open mind and to think for themselves, who ignore the obvious for the sake of being like the mainstream may just be robots in disguise.



They breath and eat and grow! And That is how you know! Uh-Oh, Uh-Uh-Oh!
That they're alive! Yes they're alive! They are a-lie-yie-yie-yie-ive! And thats not jive!
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25 Feb 2009, 12:08 pm

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In direct answer to the OP, I will say that anyone -- liberal or conservative -- who constantly thinks in circles isn't living.
By thinking in circles, I mean seeing nothing but fulfilments of your own exact personal philosophy everywhere you look, instead of seeing real life!


You got it wrong Ragtime. In philosophy, to think in circles means that first you start off with a question, next you search for an answer through as many angles as possible, and in the end you wind up back at the same question. It's a mind spiral.

Conservatives, on the other hand, declare something is true and then charge in the direction that will prove that they are right because there goal is to continuously inflate their ego and reside in the safety of the illusion that they are in control.



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25 Feb 2009, 12:11 pm

Magnus wrote:
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In direct answer to the OP, I will say that anyone -- liberal or conservative -- who constantly thinks in circles isn't living.
By thinking in circles, I mean seeing nothing but fulfilments of your own exact personal philosophy everywhere you look, instead of seeing real life!


You got it wrong Ragtime. In philosophy, to think in circles means that first you start off with a question, next you search for an answer through as many angles as possible, and in the end you wind up back at the same question. It's a mind spiral.

Conservatives, on the other hand, declare something is true and then charge in the direction that will prove that they are right because there goal is to continuously inflate their ego and reside in the safety of the illusion that they are in control.


The reason for this is that such beliefs are in their self-interest! Conservativism seeks to preserve the social order and maintain the status quo. So for people at the top this is perfectly rational. But then you have populist conservativism which insists of the sanctity of tradition because the masses believe in conformity and tradition reinforces conformity to the social norms and gives these people a sense of security.



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25 Feb 2009, 12:13 pm

Magnus wrote:
Conservatives, on the other hand, declare something is true and then charge in the direction that will prove that they are right because there goal is to continuously inflate their ego and reside in the safety of the illusion that they are in control.


Liberals do this too. That plays to my point about how similar liberals and conservatives are.



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25 Feb 2009, 12:24 pm

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Liberals do this too. That plays to my point about how similar liberals and conservatives are.

That is why I am an AnarchoCapitalist (small L) libertarian in the Rothbardian/Hessian sense...


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25 Feb 2009, 2:17 pm

Conservatives, UNFORTUNATELY, are alive and well. So are liberals. Us moderates can't compete with the ret*d right and the lame left.


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25 Feb 2009, 2:25 pm

Ragtime wrote:
I mean seeing nothing but fulfilments of your own exact personal philosophy everywhere you look, instead of seeing real life!

well, I would consider that to be what christians do actually, as well as others, I mean, their own perspective about God and nature and all the religious beliefs, practices, praying, etc that seems to follow their own personal philosophy in a great degree, because it gets a personal thing, now I think I get what you mean by "exact" personal philsophy, but then, everybody seems to be like that anyway, everybody seems to follow what it suits better for them, how can anyone see this "real life" as it is? heck, what is this "real life" in the first place, and will all agree with said definition, is there an objective notion of what this "real life" is?

Answering to the OP question, are conservatives alive? well, the real question would be, Should conservatives be alive? ;)


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25 Feb 2009, 2:29 pm

In general it seems to me, conservatives have more common sense than liberals, not less. They are also IMO more selfish, more greedy, and better at protecting themselves, their families, their countries and arguably better at protecting the human race from extinction. This is because they are often able to rightly discern a threat as a threat. Liberals, on the other hand, naively enjoy thinking everyone is their friend.....an erroneous and irrational assumption upon which to take, or refuse to take, appropriate action. Liberals, rather than conservatives, are more apt to grant license to practice dangerous and intensely harmful belief systems and gender brutality--under cover of religious freedom.

Conservatives can be inordinately sensitive to any kind of threat real or imaginary. When operating from a position of exaggerated fear and paranoia, they can make poor decisions using contrived facts. They also tend to promote slavery and lie about trickle down prosperity which requires that the slaves continue to survive in an impoverished state...and for the slaves to realize that struggling for anything more than slavery would be deleterious to their physical survival.

As for conservatives being rather robotic and going along with the herd...liberals do that too. Liberals, however, would do better summoning a tad more meanness and capacity to perceive real threats in advance to ensure adequate preparation for inevitable hostile confrontations.

Both liberals and conservatives promote unhealthy practices...and both can be seen as robots, sheep and brain-dead. What is needed is to properly separate wheat from chaff...and to learn greater wisdom in the process.



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25 Feb 2009, 2:33 pm

Magnus wrote:
Did you ever wonder why so many people seem to lack common sense?
People who are unable to have an open mind and to think for themselves, who ignore the obvious for the sake of being like the mainstream may just be robots in disguise.


yeah I'm still not sure if they actually really exist or if they are here to test my patience and just be a nuisance in general.


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25 Feb 2009, 2:45 pm

Magnus wrote:
Does anyone else have a constant inner dialogue going on?

Absolutely. I was diagnosed with schizophrenia (at 15) before I was diagnosed with autism (at age 17). I'm always in a constant argument with the inner voice that I hear in my mind.


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