Are American Atheists traitors?

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So, somehow, something happened that the whole Republican platform became a push for theocracy.

Listen to this guy: http://www.npr.org/2012/08/30/160355509 ... ion-speech. A senator at his party convention.

Is that so? If it is so very American to have faith in their Creator, then what happens to Atheist Americans? Going against the most important American Value. Would that make them traitors?

If you are planning to vote for republicans in 2012, explain, do you believe Atheists are traitors to American values?

These far-right bigots in the GOP would think that a draft avoider like Dubya is more of a patriot than a real American hero like Pat Tillman.

The "atheists are traitors" argument was mostly relevant during the Cold War, when atheism was associated with communism. I don't know what relevance it has today, considering that Ayn Rand, the matriarch of right-wing ideology, was an atheist.

Before anti-commie christian yahoos made the motto officially "In God We Trust" in 1956, it was unofficially "E Pluribus Unum" for almost 200 years. Because, you know, the founders didnt know what they were doing when they made the national seal.

And we went from an inclusive slogan to a divisive slogan in one fell swoop.

Thomas Jefferson, the author of our Declaration of Independence was a closet atheist.

If he had only freed his slaves while he still lived, he would have been a god.

ruveyn

You can argue that Atheists are more patriotic. I found many American Atheists have a preference to what the Founding Fathers wanted; a secular nation. A nation where you can worship any deity (or lack of one) and not worry about being arrested or executed for the glory of another religion. A far-right Republican calling an American Atheist "unpatriotic" is the same as an adulterer accusing his/her spouse of cheating.

The history books has him down as a Christian Deist. He believed in the Christian god, Jehovah, but did not believe he meddled in the affairs of humans or do anything really. Deists do, however, have the same opinion as Atheists in regards to miracles and "supernatural events".

Jefferson believed in Nature. He used deist language because that was all that could be understood in his day. Without miracles and the supernatural the Abrahamic religions evaporate in a puff of smoke.

ruveyn

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Usually Thomas Paine, and sometimes Benjamin Franklin are listed as atheists. Franklin was certainly a blasphemer because of his membership in The Hellfire Club.

In any case Jefferson and Franklin were no friends of organized religion, i.e. the various churches. They considered the clergy as corrupt.

ruveyn

It's still E Pluribus Unum.

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The only real Americans have feathers in their hats.

Their land was stolen by invaders with vastly superior weaponry.

All in the name of god of course. lol

America is the only country in history to jail a man for playing chess.

Land of the free?

Open your eyes.

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There is no Land of the Free anywhere on Earth. We are either bound by Law or subject to abuse by thugs.

I will tell you where the Land of the Free is. Either at your local cemetary, or a desert island in which you are the only human resident. There you are free of restrictions and constraints imposed by others.

ruveyn

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You know those citizenship tests they have for people who want to become Americans? We need to make a version for potential elected leaders.

The national motto officially became in "In God we Trust" in 1956.