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Llixgrjb
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23 Mar 2009, 12:55 am

I'm not a happy person by nature. Even as a child I was one who was given to spells of melancholy although I've never been deliriously depressed. For some reason I always had the specter of suicide hovering over my head. Tolstoy can explain this better than most:

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The truth lay in this – that life had no meaning for me. Every day of life, every step in it, brought me nearer to the edge of a precipice, whence I saw clearly the final ruin before me. To stop, to go back, were alike impossible; nor could I shut my eyes so as to not see the suffering that alone awaited me, the death of all in me even to annihilation. Thus I, a healthy and happy man, was brought to feel that I could live no longer, that an irresistible force was dragging me down into the grave. I do not mean that I had an intention of committing suicide. The force that drew me away from life was stronger, fuller, and concerned with far wider consequences than any mere wish; it was a force like that of my previous attachment to life, only in a contrary direction. The idea of suicide came as naturally to me as formerly bettering my life. It had so much attraction for me that I was compelled to practice a species of self-deception, in order to avoid carrying it out too hastily. I was unwilling to act hastily, only because I had determined first to clear away the confusion of my thoughts, and, once that done, I could always kill myself. I was happy, yet I hid away a cord, to avoid being tempted to hang myself by it to one of the pegs between the cupboards of my study, where I undressed alone every evening, and ceased carrying a gun because it offered too easy a way of getting rid of life. I knew not what I wanted; I was afraid of life, and yet there was something I hoped for from it.


Positive self-deception can only get you so far...



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23 Mar 2009, 1:00 am

Yeah, I've had bouts of melancholy my whole life as well, but I also get a nice mix of mania every now and then too to balance it out.

Not to s**t on your excerpt but Tolstoy was a closet case, and that's no way for anyone to be happy in pursuit of living a lie.



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23 Mar 2009, 3:05 am

This line from your Tolstoy quote stands out for me.

''I knew not what I wanted; I was afraid of life, and yet there was something I hoped for from it''

I fully understand you when you say ''For some reason I always had the spectre of suicide hovering over my head''

For many years I walked around looking at the boughs of trees accessing them for 'hanging rope' suitability. Thankfully this stopped when I discovered Aspergers, got my DX, and got so many answers.



I sincerely hope that you can find a way to stop this 'spectre'. I feel so much better now (please note the deliberate use of better over happy)


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23 Mar 2009, 4:37 am

I don't see the point of suicide, how impatient can you be?!


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23 Mar 2009, 6:40 am

Llixgrjb wrote:
I'm not a happy person by nature. Even as a child I was one who was given to spells of melancholy although I've never been deliriously depressed. For some reason I always had the specter of suicide hovering over my head. Tolstoy can explain this better than most:

Positive self-deception can only get you so far...


That is no an explanation, it is a description (and a rather good one at that). The cause for being hounded by The Black Dog is connected with serotonin re-uptake in the brain. Have you been checked out for clinical depression If not, get tested. Depression is a life threatening condition.

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23 Mar 2009, 6:46 pm

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23 Mar 2009, 11:31 pm

i will never understand that reasoning:

1. i am in pain
2. i want a good life
3. i will kill myself, in order to get a good life.

its like... sawing a tree down, in order to eat a hotdog, it makes no sense.

and NO daring to assume that i surely have never felt pain, if i cant understand wanting to kill self, cus that would only be arrogant.
my point is:

you dont want death.

you want GOOD life.


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