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Should we castrate high ranking officials?
Yes 20%  20%  [ 4 ]
No 50%  50%  [ 10 ]
No but we should have some kind of personal sacrifice requirement. 30%  30%  [ 6 ]
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21 Mar 2009, 4:28 pm

What if we had any male who became a high ranking goverment official castrated on the day they begin. Apart from stopping sex scandals I think that this would eliminate all but the most altruistic men from office. Men who are corupt, or want an ego trip would no longer be willing due to the pesonal sacrifice. We'd have to come up with somthing for women to make it fair of course.



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21 Mar 2009, 4:57 pm

I think there would be a distinct shortage of high ranking officials :lol:

"You've just been promoted to a high ranking official! Congratulations!"

8O "No! I resign! I'm off to sweep the streets!"

The only people taking such a job would be those with balls of steel or men wanting a cheap sex change operation.


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21 Mar 2009, 5:02 pm

I was thinking of democraticaly elected official, lol :o



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21 Mar 2009, 5:06 pm

High-ranking officials should live in cloister-cells. They should not be allowed to have property at all, and should live in celibacy.



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21 Mar 2009, 5:54 pm

metelz wrote:
We'd have to come up with somthing for women to make it fair of course.

If we take away the oviaries, they'll die by internal bleeding, which is a bit of a pity, don't you think?


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21 Mar 2009, 6:06 pm

I never suggested doing that to women. I just stated we needed to give them a sacrifice that would be as monumental as a castration, not biologically equivalent.



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21 Mar 2009, 6:50 pm

You left out Other as a choice.

I prefer trying officials when their term in office is done. That is what they did in Sparta. An ex oficio officer could be tried for committing high crimes and misdemeanors while in office.

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21 Mar 2009, 7:03 pm

What are you talking about? I proposed a sacrifice not a punishment.



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21 Mar 2009, 7:08 pm

Hmr, don't you already have something like that in the US Ruveyn? I thought there was something about presidents having to choose their "library" where they'd give all their documents? At least when their term ends? (i know there was some controversy about Bushy-boy's church or university not wanting to receive it)



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21 Mar 2009, 10:43 pm

Some societies had this in the past: In the Ottoman Empire, Imperial China and in Pre-Roman Egypt eunuchs played an import part in the administration of the realm. according to my knowledge it did not prevent corruption, neither made it the administration more effective.

Sex-Scandals: Those are mostly an US/UK-problem. Other countries do not care a lot about the sex live of their politicians. When in France president Mitterrand had his daughter outside marriage, when in Germany chancellor Willy Brandt had his affairs with young female journalists, etc. no one really cared.



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21 Mar 2009, 10:50 pm

The ideals of someone who is eager to be castrated don't seem to me to be something I could get enthusiastic about. The problem with sex scandals is with society not approving people who love to screw. It might be more interesting if a guarantee for free sex activity without disapproval would be accorded to anybody in government. Whether or not people enjoy each other has nothing to do with good government and the focus should be on economic and civil policies, not bed hopping.



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22 Mar 2009, 7:58 am

Dussel wrote:
Sex-Scandals: Those are mostly an US/UK-problem. Other countries do not care a lot about the sex live of their politicians. When in France president Mitterrand had his daughter outside marriage, when in Germany chancellor Willy Brandt had his affairs with young female journalists, etc. no one really cared.


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Europeans love a good sex-scandal. it always puzzled me why Americans make such a big deal out of it. it has nothing to do with competencies after all. it's corruption I would rather worry about.


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22 Mar 2009, 11:35 am

Zyborg wrote:
High-ranking officials should live in cloister-cells. They should not be allowed to have property at all, and should live in celibacy.


That is very close to what Plato proposed in -The Republic-.

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22 Mar 2009, 1:02 pm

ruveyn wrote:
Zyborg wrote:
High-ranking officials should live in cloister-cells. They should not be allowed to have property at all, and should live in celibacy.


That is very close to what Plato proposed in -The Republic-.

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Although quite a few things Plato proposed were reasonable, a good deal of his ideas were rather silly and way off the mark. A social leader amongst humans, as with any social animal, usually possesses not only characteristic of intelligence and good analytical abilities but also is usually high in testosterone which re-enforces ambition and energy and, in reference to males but probably with implications to females, a high sexual competitive instinct. It all goes with the package of leadership and makes good biological sense.



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22 Mar 2009, 1:08 pm

anna-banana wrote:
Dussel wrote:
Sex-Scandals: Those are mostly an US/UK-problem. Other countries do not care a lot about the sex live of their politicians. When in France president Mitterrand had his daughter outside marriage, when in Germany chancellor Willy Brandt had his affairs with young female journalists, etc. no one really cared.


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Europeans love a good sex-scandal. it always puzzled me why Americans make such a big deal out of it. it has nothing to do with competencies after all. it's corruption I would rather worry about.


I agree. Bill Clinton got in more trouble for cheating on his wife than George Bush ever did for completely screwing up the world. :roll:


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22 Mar 2009, 6:30 pm

I heard that Bill Clinton was got for lying about the blowjob, not the blowjob itself.


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