What is Honor?

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Ok, so I've been trying to figure something out. Do other Aspies believe in Honor, or is it more or less just me? Seems rare enough in the modern world that eccentrics like us are probably the only ones who still believe.

Honor is one of my main principles.

A tool that some people use to make other people do stuff. For instance: War.'

It's spelled honour, BTW.

Honor is a waste of time.

It is spelled "honour" depending upon location. Honor is American. Honour is the British way to spell it.

Dying in battle is the ultimate honor.

Only in places where they drive on the wrong side of the road.

ruveyn

Respect and dignity are implied in my sense of Hono(u)r, moreso than military might, although being born from forefathers who were officers in the french army during WWs, it would be somewhat hypocritical to say that there is absolutely NO value attached to it. =/

There are certain 'honourable' behaviours that are antiquated and of no value, such as men being expected to let women through a door before them. Others, like giving up your seat on a crowded bus to an elderly person, seem to me to still be important.

The options of the poll are too 'black-and-white' for me to vote on, so I'm not going to see the results.

Something you can add to your name when you get appointed into "Her Majesty's Most Honourable Privy Council":

"The Right Honourable Gordon Brown"

No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country.
George S. Patton

Honour is having your daughter lashed then beheaded for daring to openly doubt the truth of Islam.

Honour is having a rising sun bandana on your forehead, packing your plane full with explosives, and crashing it into a ship in a sea of flames, while shouting "BANZAI!".

I'm not one for honor; although, I have experienced cases where I felt "honored" (or something similar) to be chosen, or even just allowed, to work (or just "be") with people or a company for whom I have major respect. Typically, I don't take anything personally, so it's hard to be grateful for anything, especially when I don't ask for it, but being or feeling honored is probably a different story.

To elaborate: why are there awards for ideas, interests, and skills, for doing something that wasn't beneficial to the community -- e.g., acting, music, or announcing a theory? Why should someone win an award for being recognized? It seems so unnecessary, and more of a personal thing than a big deal for everyone. I'm not saying that something like becoming president or going to the moon shouldn't be honored, but it should really be more personal than... cultural.

The being-honored-for-dying thing is a religious thing, though. I don't personally follow it, but rather, I just let it pass. It happens.

I'm betting that what I feel when I get to work with someone I respect or admire is just excitement and not actual honor. I don't offer them gifts or love speeches or anything, which is typical when someone honors somebody.

For doubting, only the lash. For having tea with a non-related male without abba being present, lashing AND stoning for adultery.

Allah is merciful AND compassionate. Can't you tell?

ruveyn

Honour is a quantification of reputation, I suppose. If you get a knighthood, for example, it is an honour because it is a recognition of your deeds and so improves your reputation

In this case the person is 'honourable' in their society for being willing to do something extreme in order to remove shame (in this case the alleged shame of having a daughter that doubts Islam).



Here, the person is 'honourable' because they are willing to sacrifice themselves for their country.

Both examples are absolutely awful, but they only show that people can be mistaken in their desire for honour, not that honour is evil.

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My favourite writer, Iain Crichton Smith - an atheist if it matters - once wrote that you can't judge God by his followers, for you can find good in those who do not believe and evil in those who do.

Interesting.

I've always equated honor with respect and integrity. I hold doors open for people of both sexes, no one has ever seemed insulted, it's simple politeness.

While I've defended the honor of my family, I've never viewed killing someone as a good way to repudiate the insult, nor do I think that killing a family member would expunge shame.

The concept of "awards show" honors have always cracked me up. Shouldn't the fact The Dark Knight made three times the money of all the Oscar nominees combined be worth more than a crappy golden statue? I've felt honored to have met people, and there are people I feel honored to call friend, but feeling honored isn't really the same as having honor.