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01 Dec 2007, 12:25 am

Ok, I see the Autistic sign being a puzzle piece. I have to ask, whY?

Is this because I am puzzle? Am I mystery to others? Should I be considered a Giant question mark?

To be perfectly honest, I don't think Aspies are odd, I think the NTs are the ones that say one thing when they really mean something else. They are the ones that act without logic, reason, or rationality.

I think they are the puzzle.

So am I right to feel a little awkward to be universally recognized as belonging to the sign of puzzle piece?

What do you think about this?



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01 Dec 2007, 1:18 am

Democrats are a jackass

they seem fine with it


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01 Dec 2007, 8:07 pm

The puzzle piece is generally an emblem of the "pro-cure" divisions of the autism community. It symbolizes the hope that the "fragmented" autistic mind may be put back together with a combination of education, care, and modern medicine. However, the puzzle piece has spread throughout the autism culture and has become a catch-all crest of our people (to draw an analogy: Many gays disliked the pink triangle because of its Nazi associations, but it was fully adopted).

I don't like it either. I think our symbol should be a white circle with an off-center black circle inside it. This would make a little joke about gaze aversion, and also represent noncomformity with much more simplicity than that stupid puzzle piece.



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01 Dec 2007, 8:16 pm

I think this would be a good symbol, cause hes cool!

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02 Dec 2007, 12:46 pm

MissPickwickian wrote:
The puzzle piece is generally an emblem of the "pro-cure" divisions of the autism community. It symbolizes the hope that the "fragmented" autistic mind may be put back together with a combination of education, care, and modern medicine. However, the puzzle piece has spread throughout the autism culture and has become a catch-all crest of our people (to draw an analogy: Many gays disliked the pink triangle because of its Nazi associations, but it was fully adopted).

I don't like it either. I think our symbol should be a white circle with an off-center black circle inside it. This would make a little joke about gaze aversion, and also represent noncomformity with much more simplicity than that stupid puzzle piece.


Thanks for that insight. I think that your symbol idea would be a good one. I don't totally oppose the puzzle. But it sure doesn't make me feel like a freak. But I guess for the NTs it does make since and would not seem offensive.

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02 Dec 2007, 12:47 pm

TheZach wrote:
I think this would be a good symbol, cause hes cool!

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What is that?



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02 Dec 2007, 2:05 pm

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02 Dec 2007, 4:06 pm

The puzzle is meant to represent the enigma that autism is.

There's nothing wrong with it.


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03 Dec 2007, 2:53 am

beau99 wrote:
The puzzle is meant to represent the enigma that autism is.

There's nothing wrong with it.


There is nothing wrong with it IF you don't mind being called an enigma. Some people might.

Do men use the puzzle piece for women? Or women use it for men? Why not, they clearly don't understand each other do they?

I don't think Austistics are an engima any more than an NT is an enigma to me.

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03 Dec 2007, 8:56 am

IdahoAspie wrote:
beau99 wrote:
The puzzle is meant to represent the enigma that autism is.

There's nothing wrong with it.


There is nothing wrong with it IF you don't mind being called an enigma. Some people might.

Do men use the puzzle piece for women? Or women use it for men? Why not, they clearly don't understand each other do they?

I don't think Austistics are an engima any more than an NT is an enigma to me.

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I see your point. However, I'm not saying that autistics are an enigma.

Autism, however, is.

Nobody knows what causes it, nobody understands it. That's why autism is a puzzle.


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03 Dec 2007, 11:24 am

I've been trying to find a T-shirt with a slogan I saw a while ago: "I am a person, not a puzzle."
I think there's a problem with the puzzle piece in that it reduces us to less than human, and more importantly, to something which must be solved, something which must be fixed. That is what you do with a jigsaw puzzle, you solve or fix it. I don't want to be fixed. I'm fine as is.


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03 Dec 2007, 12:41 pm

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I think there's a problem with the puzzle piece in that it reduces us to less than human, and more importantly, to something which must be solved, something which must be fixed.

It was never meant to do that.


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03 Dec 2007, 1:49 pm

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It was never meant to do that.

That may be the case, but it doesn't make it any less true that it is the inference many take from the symbol.


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03 Dec 2007, 4:04 pm

I use the symbol of the ichthys, since it has a great history of representing change, evolution, intelligence, and advancement.

It's also a bit of an autistic joke because of the supposed connection among fish, mercury, and autism. :D


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03 Dec 2007, 5:20 pm

[/quote]
I see your point. However, I'm not saying that autistics are an enigma.

Autism, however, is.

Nobody knows what causes it, nobody understands it. That's why autism is a puzzle.[/quote]

Autism is a part of me, you cannot seperate me from it. It is like my gender and my race. You cannot cure me being male or caucasion, you can change me, or those things about me, but I cease to be me. I don't want to cease to be me, I don't want to be someone else. God/Nature made me this way, intentionally, and I don't want to mess with that. Being no longer an Aspie is one of the last things on my list I would change about me.

I am quite sure that AS is a genetic trait. And like anything else, are starting to understand it as we study it. Soon it will not be a mystery any longer.

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03 Dec 2007, 5:23 pm

mmaestro wrote:
beau99 wrote:
It was never meant to do that.

That may be the case, but it doesn't make it any less true that it is the inference many take from the symbol.


Well, I think most people dx with Autism are not much aware of anything in a social context of things. But now that we know about AS, there are a number of people that are.

I am willing to bet if they tried to use that symbol for women by men, their would be a swift, loud, negative reaction it.

But, may I say that I am hugely offended by it, just a little. I mean, there are a lost worse things to be called than a puzzle.

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