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jimmy m
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20 Mar 2020, 1:04 pm

There are some interesting headlines this morning.

One read: US could see lowest gas prices in history
A few days ago before I went into quarantine, I bought some gasoline for $1.71 per gallon. Astonishing! I heard that there is a gas station in Kentucky selling gas for $0.99 per gallon.

Another read: Britain asking 65,000 retired nurses and doctors to return to work to help fight coronavirus

Then there was one that read: California wakes up to strictest coronavirus measures in USA: Here are new rules
Had to see the new rules.

The order has forced the closure of dine-in restaurants, bars and nightclubs, entertainment venues, gyms, public events and gatherings, and convention centers.

Services and businesses that have been deemed “essential”-- such as gas stations, pharmacies, grocery stores, banks and laundromats--will be allowed to stay open, as well as “law enforcement and offices that provide government programs and services.” [everyone else should stay home]

The order also asks Californians who work in more than a dozen federally-designated “critical infrastructure sectors” -- ranging from defense to nuclear reactors – to keep reporting to their jobs.

Newsom also called for the state’s healthcare system to “prioritize services to serving those who are the sickest and shall prioritize resources, including personal protective equipment, for the providers providing direct care to them.”

Another headline read: Texas announces shutdown amid coronavirus crisis

Texas Gov. Greg Abbott on Thursday issued an executive order that will close schools, restaurants, bars and gyms in an effort to stop the spread of the deadly coronavirus.

Speaking to reporters from the state Capitol, Abbott said the order prohibits dining or eating at restaurants and bars, but “to go” orders are still permitted. He said that Texans must limit social gatherings to 10 people and may not visit nursing homes except for critical care.


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20 Mar 2020, 1:21 pm

I wonder what the mortality rate would have been had they tested EVERYBODY in Wuhan.

Within “normal” flu, most people just recuperate at home without being tested for it.

Jimmy offers food for thought.



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20 Mar 2020, 1:25 pm

Iran’s health ministry said Thursday that a person is dying of coronavirus every ten minutes as caseloads continue to rise and hospitals reach a breaking point.

After weeks of skewed numbers and accusations of downplaying or covering up the coronavirus prevalence in Iran, the Tehran government is finally voicing the horrifying extent of the problem in its borders.

“Based on our information, every ten minutes one person dies from the coronavirus and some 50 people become infected with the virus every hour in Iran,” Kianush Jahanpur, the spokesperson for Iran’s health ministry, tweeted.

For the first time, authorities are admitting that the scale of the spread is much greater than they previously voiced.

Source: A person dies of coronavirus every 10 minutes in Iran, health ministry says


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20 Mar 2020, 1:45 pm

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I think Ezra that when the public see that the shelves in the stores are being replenished on a regular basis, and that there is no lack of basic commodities then they will calm down a bit and stop hoarding. It is the initial shock, when we establish a new routine and see that we can get what we need when we need it we will all panic less. There are plenty of reserves and import and export of food is still robust as far as I know.


I concur completely. It is due to surge buying not a true shortage. Items will return to stores quickly. But the next problem will be a lack of customers, when many people are in lockdown. People too afraid to leave their homes.


Been two to 3 weeks of it here. People buy it up as soon as it hits the shelf. Same for ammo at my work. It could be few more weeks or months before people stop. If we get the federal aid it’ll enable people to continue buying it up.


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20 Mar 2020, 1:48 pm

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It’s definitely a situation where more influential folks have more access to testing.

There will be hundreds of thousands of cases nationwide. Many of these will not tested.


My work will pay two weeks off but only if you’re tested, which they had to know couldn’t happen, so bam they can look good whil not having to pay anyone time off. Win win.
And they making millions off panic buying while our cleaning supplies are nearly ran out.


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20 Mar 2020, 1:49 pm

We found out how it got to Italy.

How did Iran, of all places, get the COVID-19, while places like Iraq were relatively spared?



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20 Mar 2020, 1:51 pm

Well I went outside this morning and decided Spring was finally here. Over the years I have developed a rule for determining the arrival of Spring. It is the first day that outdoor temperatures exceed 70 degrees F. And yesterday that happened. At least I think it happened. When I passed by the thermometer yesterday, it read 69.9 degrees F. And I didn't actually stand by it for a few hours to make sure it cross the threshold but it is a good assumption.

The other rational is that we experience floods during Spring. In the last storm we had a lot of rain, maybe 8 inches or more. This morning I went down to my driveway bridge and looked at a log that washed onto it.

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The log was waterlogged and probably weighs 1000 pounds. I will probably wait a couple days for things to dry out a little and then move it.

What does this all mean. It means the back of Winter has been broken. Sure we might see a dusting of snow or two but it is essential over. Humidity levels are returning to normal. My indoor humidity gauge is reading 44% RH at the moment. And the other thing that it means is that in my neck of the woods, the coronavirus pandemic is quickly coming to an end. We are naturally moving into the 40% - 60% RH range where viruses are unable to survive and infect people.

I walked around my property cleaning up the mess left by the storm. I heard a large crack and then a massive crash. It was one of the trees damaged by the tornadoes 11 years ago that swept through my property. Many of these trees were not blown completely over. Some were at 45 degree angles to the ground. They eventually die and suddenly fall to the ground. I came across an Unidentified Flying Object. It had scales and a fin. I suspect it was a fish. But it was in the middle of my field. So the first thought was how did it get here. I didn't see any wings. I heard they have flying fish but this did not look like one. I went up and got a tape measure and measured it. Nine inches.

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But I surmised that it probably washed up in the flood waters. That is really surprising because I wouldn't think a fish would be the last thing to die from a flood. Now I know there is probably some smart aleck in the crowd that will recommend that I take it home and eat it. Well I ain't dumb. I only eat dead things that come from a can or from my freezer. Who knows this fish might have died from the coronavirus.


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20 Mar 2020, 1:53 pm

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kraftiekortie wrote:
It’s definitely a situation where more influential folks have more access to testing.

There will be hundreds of thousands of cases nationwide. Many of these will not tested.


My work will pay two weeks off but only if you’re tested, which they had to know couldn’t happen, so bam they can look good whil not having to pay anyone time off. Win win.
And they making millions off panic buying while our cleaning supplies are nearly ran out.


Are you about out of cleaning supplies at home?



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20 Mar 2020, 1:54 pm

I'm never going to Tim Horton's again. They and all other companies are evil and only pretending to care, but they make their staff come in and don't make them wear masks and gloves.

The birds that migrating back in the spring will be carrying the virus and will spread it even worse than before.

Every day feels like a week, every week feels like a month, and every month feels like an eternity.

I don't want to die, but I hate living. I know one day the thought of death will no longer frighten me, it will comfort me instead and I will do anything to be in peace at last.



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20 Mar 2020, 1:57 pm

Gas here has gone up. It’s now $2.79 but apparently everywhere else but Oregon has gone down


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20 Mar 2020, 1:58 pm

It’s in the $2.20s and $2.30s here.

It doesn’t matter, though. I’m not going anywhere for a while.



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20 Mar 2020, 2:05 pm

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I'm never going to Tim Horton's again. They and all other companies are evil and only pretending to care, but they make their staff come in and don't make them wear masks and gloves.

The birds that migrating back in the spring will be carrying the virus and will spread it even worse than before.

Every day feels like a week, every week feels like a month, and every month feels like an eternity.

I don't want to die, but I hate living. I know one day the thought of death will no longer frighten me, it will comfort me instead and I will do anything to be in peace at last.


A lot of businesses won’t allow their employees to wear mask or gloves. I suspect mine doesn’t, two employees wore gloves then half way though didn’t and acted like it was danger anymore, but earlier said better safe then sorry. Apparently Walmart will fire those who wear mask or gloves.

My work sells camping supplies but says we are essential, so it’ll never shut down so I’m going have to call out and get fired. My mom has been told to stay home and stay away from people, it doesn’t make sense for me to go out and be exposed to hundreds of people every hour. 1/4 or so of our customers are wearing masks. While most other stores have limited their hours, my work has expanded ours, were now open even longer.


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20 Mar 2020, 2:06 pm

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It’s in the $2.20s and $2.30s here.

It doesn’t matter, though. I’m not going anywhere for a while.

It was 2.69 few weeks ago, it’s gone up 10¢ but apparently other states it’s less then dollar wtf so guess gas places here are just raking in huge profits f**k them


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20 Mar 2020, 2:07 pm

Bravo5150 wrote:
sly279 wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
It’s definitely a situation where more influential folks have more access to testing.

There will be hundreds of thousands of cases nationwide. Many of these will not tested.


My work will pay two weeks off but only if you’re tested, which they had to know couldn’t happen, so bam they can look good whil not having to pay anyone time off. Win win.
And they making millions off panic buying while our cleaning supplies are nearly ran out.


Are you about out of cleaning supplies at home?

No my work is almost out. And suppliers are rightfully only proving supplies to medical facilities, so we won’t get more anytime soon


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20 Mar 2020, 2:14 pm

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sly279 wrote:
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It’s definitely a situation where more influential folks have more access to testing.

There will be hundreds of thousands of cases nationwide. Many of these will not tested.


My work will pay two weeks off but only if you’re tested, which they had to know couldn’t happen, so bam they can look good whil not having to pay anyone time off. Win win.
And they making millions off panic buying while our cleaning supplies are nearly ran out.


Are you about out of cleaning supplies at home?

No my work is almost out. And suppliers are rightfully only proving supplies to medical facilities, so we won’t get more anytime soon


Has your boss asked you or anyone else for other suggestions about the problem?



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20 Mar 2020, 2:16 pm

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In my opinion it is only serious cases that matter.

NO.
It is the transmission of the disease to vulnerable populations who will become severely ill that also matter. This disease is more contagious than usual because it is new and immunities have not been built up.


I'd say another factor that makes this disease spread faster than your average virus is precisely the fact that the light cases are hard to detect, so people go to work and infect others in perfect ignorance. Most countries do not have enough testing capacity, for various reasons.


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