Attorney General to target hate speech

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You know how f****d things really are even when you agree with Tucker Carlson

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 29145.html

Oh boy, I'm waiting for him to get cancelled now.

White House vow to dismantle left-wing organizations may be easier issued than implemented, according to experts.

“There’s not a lot of federal law on this,” said Scott Walter, president of the Capital Research Center, a Washington-based nonprofit organization that tracks progressive groups and is influential in conservative circles. “Frankly, the states and localities should be doing a better job [of prosecuting criminal activity], as they did in the 1960s. They have enormously more manpower.”

His point hints at the challenge administration officials have as they try to respond to anger over the Sept. 10 assassination of prominent conservative activist Charlie Kirk with a concrete plan of action.

White House officials, including President Donald Trump, Vice President JD Vance and deputy chief of staff Stephen Miller, have accused left-wing groups of fomenting political violence in the wake of a killing that shocked the nation and left the president’s MAGA base with a mix of grief, fear and fury.

A White House spokesperson responded to requests for comment on reports of plans to target such organizations with clips of a Trump interview on Fox News, including one in which he accused groups on the left of “incitement to riot.”

On Wednesday, Trump declared that he had designated antifa, a decentralized set of extreme left-wing groups, as a “major terrorist organization.” But there is no domestic equivalent of a “foreign terrorist organization” — a label administrations use to sanction non-state American adversaries overseas — in federal law.

“He can say what he wants, but it has no legal significance,” said Mary McCord, the former top national security official at the Justice Department. “To create a designation process for domestic organizations that would trigger any legal ramifications, you would need Congress to create a statute creating that process. Theoretically he could try to do things through executive orders, but that’s not going to trigger any of the current criminal material support [for foreign terrorist organization] charges.”

Trump made a similar proclamation about antifa during his first term in office, and former Attorney General William Barr asked the FBI to develop a strategy to investigate left-wing organizations. That led the FBI to enlist members of the far-right group the Proud Boys as confidential human sources, some of whom later entered the Capitol during the Jan. 6, 2021, attack.

In January, Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, R-Ga., proposed labeling antifa a terrorist organization. But her House resolution, which has not advanced, would not have the force of law. Greene did not reply to a text message seeking comment.

Authorities have not publicly identified any link between antifa and Kirk’s death. When Utah prosecutors charged Tyler Robinson with murdering Kirk, the documents they filed in court this week did not identify him as a member of any group.

In 2020, then-FBI Director Christopher Wray said that while antifa was “a real thing,” it was “not a group or an organization. It’s a movement or an ideology.”

Jon Lewis, a research fellow at the Program on Extremism at George Washington University, said: “It’s fairly obvious and there’s a general consensus in the research community that antifa is not an organization, lacks any coherent membership structure, and most importantly it’s not foreign. In a period where there is significant political violence, there is at least increased concern around putting a target on the back of anyone who can be tarred with the brush of being antifa.”

Despite the claims of prominent allies of the president, Lewis pointed out that studies show that right-wing violence is a much deadlier threat in recent history than left-wing violence.

Federal authorities may probe groups they suspect have spurred riots and attacks on law enforcement officers, groups that illegally make personal information public or groups that are responsible for “drop points for weapons and material,” according to an administration official. That could result in more prosecutions under existing laws, but Congress would still have to act to make a wider range of activity illegal.

White House officials and outside groups appear to have homed in on a still-developing plan to target the tax-exempt status of groups that fund liberal activism, including the Open Society Foundations, which was founded by billionaire George Soros, and the Ford Foundation.

“Do you know they benefit from generous treatment? They are literally subsidized by you and me, the American taxpayer,” Vance said when he guest-hosted “The Charlie Kirk Show” on Monday. “And how do they reward us? By setting fire to the house built by the American family over 250 years.”

Federal law prohibits the president and the vice president from ordering investigations into organizations’ tax status.

Angelo Greco, a progressive operative who advises groups that have not been mentioned by Trump — including Our Revolution, One Fair Wage, Reproductive Freedom for All and Black Women’s Roundtable — said past threats from administration officials to go after liberal nonprofit groups have given them time to prepare.

“What’s different now is that I didn’t think the temperature could reach a boiling point, but we’re there,” Greco said.

Left-leaning advocacy groups are rethinking contingency plans, including “changing their name, revising their mission or operating differently,” he said.

Joseph Geevarghese, the executive director of Our Revolution, a group founded by Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., after his 2016 presidential campaign that is focused on electing progressive lawmakers and advancing left-wing economic causes, said it’s still far too soon to know how the promised crackdown would affect progressive advocacy organizations.

He said his organization was less likely to be hampered by the effort, though, because it does not rely on any major donors and it is focused on economic issues rather than cultural touch points.

Geevarghese said he has heard from some grassroots activists that there is increased concern about taking part in protests or other group action. But he said: “We’re going to continue doing what we do.”

Walter, the president of the Capital Research Center, whose group has briefed the White House on nonprofit organizations’ voter registration efforts that it sees as partisan, said that despite the challenges, he is hopeful that the administration can take effective actions against left-wing groups.

“I’m more optimistic than I’ve ever been, but it is definitely an uphill battle to make progress,” he said.

To do that, he added, the White House should focus on sources of funding, including tax exemptions.

“I hope the administration will come up with serious strategic ways of dealing with these things,” he said. “The larger problem, namely all the radicalization, needs to be looked at strategically.”

Hate speech that represents a true threat, an imminent threat to incitement, or defamation is not protected. Threatening posts by keyboard warriors is protected. But this is not what this is about, this is about using the assassination of Charlie Kirk to silence as much anti MAGA speech as possible. It is woke right authoritarianism.

I assume this is only applies to anti-MAGA thought policing. Funny double standard. Actual hate speech from racists is still protected under freedom of speech.

This is how free societies come to an end.

Both political sides stomped on freedom of expression these days. I was talking with my G/F yesterday, and we were whispering while in the car for fear of being heard being politically incorrect. We are getting a taste of how many people all over the world have to deal with Big Brother.

Why? Who's seriously going to arrest you? And if anyone threatens you for it, you can call the police, as nobody has the right to do that to you.

I assume this is only applies to anti-MAGA thought policing. Funny double standard. Actual hate speech from racists is still protected under freedom of speech.

Remember everyone, it's only freed speech when others agree with you, if they don't then it's hate speech!

Idk man, these days calling someone a racist or fascist is a big slur even worse than the N word. But people who oppose fascism are 'terrorists' not to worry all is well, the great Führer Trump will surely make the world clean and great.

Agreed, but just be careful calling trump or Kirk names. Kash Patel is watching.