Dillogic wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
and...still is a problem regardless.
Proclaiming something to be a problem with no factual evidence is proclaiming that the sky is pink.
If I were to hazard a guess, the reason why there's a lot of police presence in certain areas is due to the areas themselves -- more police presence, more police "everything" (an increase in abuse for the simple reason there's more police there. Not that I'm saying police abuse is a problem. Abuse by common citizens is a million times worst, and that's the problem, even if it is low nowadays compared to the past).

I figured this was a discussion based on the premise police brutality as well as police abusing power is an issue, there is plenty of proof that police brutality is a problem. Didn't know it was expected to be posted in this thread since its supposed to be about solutions...I think if one wants to debate if police brutality is a problem or not perhaps a new thread for that is in order.
For example the various videos of cops needlessly shooting peopels pet dogs...and that's just the tip of the iceberg, there is also that video I found of cops practically attacking protestors in the city I live around, I think there was something recent about someone being killed by a choke hold after indicating they could not breath to the cop and well I could keep going. Seems to me the problem is police abusing their power, I even had an incident where they abused their power on me(but not going to derail the thread as that is a long story). Also around Denver they hired a bunch of new cops to patrol a certain area I am quite familiar with, there was no need for it...waste of money and its mostly a bunch of new recruits who just got out of cop training so the young ones with the caulky attitudes who like the 'authoritarian' image. It certainly had nothing to do with more crime...more to harass the homeless and intimidate people.
And what do you mean abuse by the common citizen, seems its the common citizens that are more on the receiving end of the abuse.
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