Cannibal cop cleared of all charges.

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07 Dec 2015, 1:30 am

Valle is free to go.


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07 Dec 2015, 7:10 am

No crime, no conviction.

Case closed.


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07 Dec 2015, 7:12 am

Very sound reasoning from the judge:

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A court should not uphold a highly problematic interpretation of a statute merely because the Government promises to use it responsibly.



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08 Dec 2015, 4:16 am

Now he's free to get lunch.


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08 Dec 2015, 9:14 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
Now he's free to get lunch.
A little Chinese, perhaps ... ?

:twisted:


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08 Dec 2015, 10:36 am

So he did NOT serve his fellow man!

Actually I never even heard of this case until now.



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08 Dec 2015, 10:36 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
Now he's free to get lunch.


With fava beans? And Chianti?



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08 Dec 2015, 1:28 pm

Fnord wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Now he's free to get lunch.
A little Chinese, perhaps ... ?

:twisted:


Along with Greek and Mexican.


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08 Dec 2015, 1:28 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
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Now he's free to get lunch.


With fava beans? And Chianti?


Absolutely.


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08 Dec 2015, 1:34 pm

While I agree with the reasoning applied by the court, I personally find this chilling. Terrifying, in fact.



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08 Dec 2015, 5:45 pm

Varelse wrote:
While I agree with the reasoning applied by the court, I personally find this chilling. Terrifying, in fact.


Yep. Had this been some random guy on the streets fantasizing about cannibalizing women, that's one thing. But Valle was a cop with access to the police database, which would have let him find women who were especially vulnerable -- either due to past or ongoing criminal charges (and would hence felt compelled to "cooperate" on whatever a cop asked of them) or were women who had already been victims of a crime, in the past, and hence would trust a cop, never suspecting that he was / is a sick man.

I do understand that sick fantasizing, however revolting it is, does not constitute a crime. However, I can't kept but wonder if and when this guy would have crossed that line between fantasy and criminal action, had he not been apprehended on time ? (One of the women he fantasized eating was his own wife. Hopefully, his ex-wife with a permanent restraining order in place, by now).

If you can't trust a police officer, then who do you trust ?


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08 Dec 2015, 5:49 pm

8O

That's all I gotta say!



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08 Dec 2015, 5:51 pm

So if he is completely cleared, the court has no authority to make him get counseling or require periodic evaluations to see if he is mentally progressing towards living these fantasies, actually killing someone?

8O


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08 Dec 2015, 6:20 pm

Sylkat wrote:
So if he is completely cleared, the court has no authority to make him get counseling or require periodic evaluations to see if he is mentally progressing towards living these fantasies, actually killing someone?

8O


Yes, you can't yet force people into counseling or periodic evaluations for thought crime.



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08 Dec 2015, 7:35 pm

Adamantium wrote:
Sylkat wrote:
So if he is completely cleared, the court has no authority to make him get counseling or require periodic evaluations to see if he is mentally progressing towards living these fantasies, actually killing someone?
Yes, you can't yet force people into counseling or periodic evaluations for thought crime.
Is there even a clear definition of a "Thought Crime" on our law books?


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08 Dec 2015, 9:45 pm

Fnord wrote:
Adamantium wrote:
Sylkat wrote:
So if he is completely cleared, the court has no authority to make him get counseling or require periodic evaluations to see if he is mentally progressing towards living these fantasies, actually killing someone?
Yes, you can't yet force people into counseling or periodic evaluations for thought crime.
Is there even a clear definition of a "Thought Crime" on our law books?


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