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13 Sep 2025, 2:40 am

In response to the death of Charlie Kirk and black crime trump responds:



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"I'm going to tell something that's going to get me in trouble but I couldn't care less, the radicals on the right (his fine people) are radical because they don't want to see crime. we don't want these people (Mexicans) coming in across the border, we don't want shootings in shopping centres or middle of the street(blacks). the radicals on the left are the problem, they are vicious and horrible, they want transgenders in sport and open borders, they are the worst thing to happen to this country"

so there you have it folks...unambiguous and open about what he has always stood for...



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13 Sep 2025, 7:00 am

the assassination of Charlie Kirk coincided with the stabbing murder of Irina Zarutska and trump's decision to send troops to Washington and now Chicago to deal with black crime is now creating a new national issue about black on white crime.

trump spruiked the issue of black crime and Charlie Kirk's last several debates included outrage over blonde Irina Zarutska's murder at the hands of a black man as usual aligning his propaganda machine to coincide with trump's policies. As a result many Americans are clearly conflating the three issues


Kirk's murder has (in addition to enraging the right) created a situation where Americans who would not normally support MAGA now seem to be drawn in by false propaganda being spread around by trump and his allies.



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13 Sep 2025, 7:07 am

Propaganda machine in full activation mode on social media against the left



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13 Sep 2025, 9:22 am

The filthy sex predator criminal pretends he and his base (who gleefully elected a filthy sex predator criminal to be president) care so much about crime.

Oh, please. Shove it, you filthy sex predator criminal. :roll:


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13 Sep 2025, 1:28 pm

I used to have faith in humanity, that we'd proceed in a direction for the greater good, not of just humanity, but the world in general. Always thought it'd take time, but we'd get there little by little. Then Trump came along. I just don't get it. He makes me angry, and sad. He's preying on the ignorant, he's promoting ignorance, he celebrates ignorance. I'm not without my faults and biases, but honestly, the total disregard he has for professionalism, science, total disregard for human beings, disregard for the environment, disregard for pretty much everything I value.



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13 Sep 2025, 5:25 pm

Trump? Not the same Trump who had Nick Fuentes over for dinner that time? :lol:


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13 Sep 2025, 6:59 pm

frollpoff wrote:
He's preying on the ignorant, he's promoting ignorance, he celebrates ignorance. I'm not without my faults and biases, but honestly, the total disregard he has for professionalism, science, total disregard for human beings, disregard for the environment, disregard for pretty much everything I value.


I think it's not constructive to try and put yourself in trump's shoes. He is a product of a specific type of upbringing which largely explains his values. Same goes for Elon Musk or Prince Andrew. None of these three ever had to face consequences for their sociopathic traits and their lack of regard for other people.

Once you understand what trump's core values and goals are, it should be easy to understand the purpose of his policies. He has been reliant on specific people much more talented than him (Bannon and Kirk) to push right wing propaganda and has been fantastically successful. Kirk followed Andrew Tate's success appealing to young people by packaging far right ideologies to Americans as intellectual, hence his college campus tours and churning podcasts on social media. Kirk's assassination has been packaged as a rationale of trump's war on crime and democrat failure to control crime.

trump's timing for his statement "there is nothing wrong with the radical right" "they are against crime allowed to fester because of wokeness and democrats who are controlled by the radical left" - timing is no accident.
white Americans have been outraged over the murder of Irina Zarutska, optics they saw was black man celebrating killing a young blonde woman and 5 black men who sat and watched the murder and did not intervene to stop the killer or call 9-11. Coincides with the optics of thousands of left wing Americans celebrating Charlie Kirk's death on social media.

trump can now package his sending troops into Washington and Chicago to stop immigrants and blacks as a war on black on white crime. He's hit a chord. white Americans (and even minorities) who were on the fence and may not be comfortable with MAGA or Kirk or trump, they now see trump "appearing" to be tough on crime. they also have wives and children and they don't want their kids to be another Irina (literally Charlie Kirk's mantra over the past few weeks). they see social media celebrating Kirk's killing and it's packaged as unamerican and not decent. Charlie Kirk and Irina Zarutska have become convenient martyrs to trump's war on crime.

So yes, the timing was perfect to lift up the far right as allies in the war on crime and war on "woke left" whose policies permit crime to happen to patriotic hard working Americans.

Hating trump is not constructive, he has been telegraphing his intentions loud and clear for a decade now. what is an important question is why he has 77 million Americans on board with the MAGA/qanon cult. Crime is working for him. while Americans are still upset over the assassination of Kirk, he is now injected his philosophy through the media. It's a form of mass inoculation keeping millions on his side and directing their anger at the woke democrats.



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13 Sep 2025, 11:29 pm

So Our wonderful great media marketing,in America . Now can cover any and everything . That never used to be available.To the Public at large.. If no other reason than the media resources just were not there. Do in the 1800s
you might eonder how many people dieds by gunfire . And many other things that ,just the Church often chastised people or excomminicated them from the society they lived in. Uou never heard of any of the murders or abuses going on in several states over from where they lived , Or even floods in outside areas. Might not ever get heard of, As natural disasters just happen. So nowadays with the ability of media to get reported the eorld over. everybody can manipulations all kinds of news anywhere into their favour for political manipulation of the masses. And here we are in the 21st century . Reliving our worlds past ,just with different actors . ( So much for that old adage about a people
who has forgotten their past being forced to relive it.)


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14 Sep 2025, 4:34 am

^^^ In 2025 propaganda is packaged as entertainment on social media in the form of podcasts and tik tok, Charlie Kirk was a foot soldier for trump's right wing beliefs on social media.

Charlie Kirk's propaganda was like a mind virus, infecting vulnerable kids with his far right garbage, designed to get the next generation of MAGA voters.



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14 Sep 2025, 11:39 am

On the device I'm signed in to Youtube on, I've disabled view history. When I go to Youtube, the page is blank and tells me I've disabled history, and encourages me to enable it. As soon as I watch a video however, the suggestions of what to watch next are full of people being destroyed, either left or right, fascist or woke, and "equal rights equal fights" with thumbnails of men kicking women in the head - probably AI generated. I feel like it's definitely weighted toward the right, promoting violence and aggression whether physical or emotional or mental. Stoking the fire. On another device, I'm not signed in at all, but it's pretty much the same content.
I'm angered by Elon Musk addressing Tommy Robinson's far-right rally (via video) in London, telling them to fight or die. Trump saying the left are vicious and nasty.... because they want trans people in sport. It's such ridiculous nonsense, it's almost laughable, but people are taking him seriously.
It all feels very dystopian.
It was a mistake for people to celebrate Kirk's death. I understand why it happened, but the right barely had to spin it to use that celebration to their advantage.



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14 Sep 2025, 1:40 pm

Those claiming the outrage about murder of Zarutska is only about people being outraged about a white women being killed by a black man are understanding part of what is going on here. Those outraged are also outraged a perceived double standard and media cover up.

It was about two weeks from when Zarutska was murdered until it went viral. Those outraged are assuming the media covered it up because it did not fit the “woke” narrative of racist whites attacking black people because they are black. They assume that if a white man did that to a black woman it would get George Floyd/Rodney King type wall to wall coverage.

While there is some truth to the double standards charge there are significant reasons it does not apply to this case. Unlike George Floyd Zarutska was not murdered by police. It did not happen in New York where the mainstream media live. In other words this was random crime that in most cases would be treated by the national media as a local crime story not worthy of their time. This was covered by the Charlotte media when it happened. The reason it is a national story is the woke right made it so because it fits their narrative.

Trump is the last one who should be complaining about incitement. Yeah, I know, lost cause.


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15 Sep 2025, 3:38 am

ASPartOfMe wrote:
The reason it is a national story is the woke right made it so because it fits their narrative.
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Yep fits a MAGA narrative. the outrage is itself racist. Never any outrage for black women.
https://iwpr.org/violence-against-black ... 20homicide.



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15 Sep 2025, 3:56 am

frollpoff wrote:
It was a mistake for people to celebrate Kirk's death. I understand why it happened, but the right barely had to spin it to use that celebration to their advantage.

MAGAs were already targeting innocent people in retribution long before the tik tok memes
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... st-threats

Kirk was classified as a bigot and racist
https://www.splcenter.org/resources/hat ... alt-right/
https://www.adl.org/resources/backgroun ... -point-usa
https://racism.org/articles/defining-ra ... upremacist
https://www.facebook.com/polotiking/pos ... 207294864/

I wouldn't celebrate his murder and don't advocate violence, But the person who killed Kirk is also an intelligent privileged, far right conservative whose family are life long republicans (Much like Kirk himself).



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15 Sep 2025, 4:10 am

^^ Yes, Yes the media sensation, is oddly enough balanced towards feeding the Rump right side agenda ^^^
before you know it ,next there maybe the unconscionable horror of Black coloured cockroaches ( bugs)
invading the homes of unsuspecting White women . Obviously the unspeakable act of the Left overt permissability of
minority types ....Possibly even transgendered insects .
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15 Sep 2025, 4:26 am

Jakki wrote:
before you know it ,next there maybe the unconscionable horror of Black coloured cockroaches ( bugs)
invading the homes of unsuspecting White women .


Likewise what happened to Irina Zarutska was horrible. She was working late shift in a pizza parlour and had to catch the train at late at night. She was unlucky to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. But that Charlie Kirk and trump made it about race was disgusting.



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16 Sep 2025, 8:00 pm

While I don't believe all Americans will fall for Trump's line of sh*t, I fear just enough will. And that will give him the political muscle he needs to crack down on anyone critical of the MAGA ant-gospel and it's orange messiah, Trump.


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