Trump tests positive for coronavirus

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04 Oct 2020, 8:27 am

For much of this year, Trump has spun an alternate reality about the dangers of coronavirus -- disputing science and the efficacy of masks, downplaying the risks to the American people, and making false statements about how 99% of coronavirus cases in America are "totally harmless" or that the virus "affects virtually nobody".

He encouraged his aides and advisers to live in that dangerous fantasy land, pushing his luck to the limits as late as this past week when he again recklessly gathered thousands of unmasked Americans at his political rallies and packed the top officials in government into a Rose Garden ceremony for his Supreme Court nominee. All the while, White House officials embraced the fallacy that administering rapid coronavirus tests frequently at the White House could provide a shield of immunity.

The President's construct crumbled Friday when he was airlifted to Walter Reed after contracting the virus, while many aides, advisers and allies were testing positive for Covid-19 after interacting with him over the past week.

What a loser.

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04 Oct 2020, 10:51 am

Fnord wrote:

It's disturbing that he continuously lied to people.

Fox news called COVID "Democrat fake news".

In March, I was at a restaurant with CNN news playing talking about COVID19, a propagandized elderly man kept muttering, "FAKE NEWS" .... "FAKE NEWS" .... "FAKE NEWS".

I wonder if he is alive today.

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04 Oct 2020, 2:11 pm

Trump could leave hospital as early as Monday, doctors say

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President Trump has "continued to improve" and respond to treatment for COVID-19 at Walter Reed National Military Medical Center, his doctors said Sunday, suggesting he could return to the White House.

But Dr. Sean Conley, the White House physician, also revealed the president had been given a dose of a steroid, dexamethasone, on Saturday, and had experienced two drops in his oxygen levels since the onset of the illness. Dexamethasone has been shown to improve outcomes for patients with severe cases of COVID-19, including those who require supplemental oxygen, but is not recommended for use in patients with milder cases.

Conley said the president's move to Walter Reed on Friday was prompted by Conley's concern for the "rapid progression" of his symptoms from Thursday night into Friday morning, with a high fever and low oxygen levels. Conley said Mr. Trump was given supplemental oxygen on Friday before he was brought to the medical center.

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04 Oct 2020, 2:21 pm

/\ I am somewhat concerned about this prospect.

These are the official CDC guidelines:

CDC wrote:

You can be around others after:

10 days since symptoms first appeared and
24 hours with no fever without the use of fever-reducing medications and
Other symptoms of COVID-19 are improving

Source: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nc ... ation.html

So if Trump showed symptoms Thursday evening, he ought to be in isolation until Sunday the 11th, at least...

Problem is, he may not comply with these restrictions (as he has consistently ignored mask and social distance guidelines so far) if he is discharged on Monday and goes back to the White House (to remain in isolation there).

Instead he might start running around infecting people left and right...

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04 Oct 2020, 2:28 pm

GGPViper wrote:

/\ I am somewhat concerned about this prospect.

These are the official CDC guidelines:

CDC wrote:

You can be around others after:

10 days since symptoms first appeared and
24 hours with no fever without the use of fever-reducing medications and
Other symptoms of COVID-19 are improving

Instead he might start running around infecting people left and right...

If he does this he should be put behind bars for potential manslaughter.

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04 Oct 2020, 4:00 pm

Space50 wrote:

GGPViper wrote:

/\ I am somewhat concerned about this prospect.

These are the official CDC guidelines:

CDC wrote:

You can be around others after:

10 days since symptoms first appeared and
24 hours with no fever without the use of fever-reducing medications and
Other symptoms of COVID-19 are improving

Instead he might start running around infecting people left and right...

If he does this he should be put behind bars for potential manslaughter.

He won't be able to be held legally accountable so long as he's the sitting president.

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04 Oct 2020, 6:01 pm

I saw on YouTube where people were saying that they don't think Trump really has COVID-19. They were saying that Trump has only had symptoms for 2 days and is already getting better and that it takes longer for people to get better from having a cold than it has taken Trump to get better from COVID.

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04 Oct 2020, 6:06 pm

I got better in 2-3 days after being infected by it but I still had to quarantine for 10 days. But that didn't matter because we had to stay indoors anyway and couldn't go anywhere because of the smoke.

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04 Oct 2020, 7:33 pm

Trump pays drive-by visit to supporters outside hospital after doctors confirm his blood oxygen dropped twice

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Donald Trump paid "a little surprise to some of the great patrons" outside the military hospital on Sunday where he's being treated for COVID-19. The U.S. president wore a mask as he waved from the back seat of a black SUV that crawled in a caravan of vehicles in front of the hospital, while supporters waving Trump 2020 flags chanted, "USA! USA!"

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05 Oct 2020, 1:20 am

Trump's oxygen level had fallen again on Saturday to the point that supplemental oxygen was again required, and that scans of his lungs showed some indications of damage, although he insisted they were not of "major clinical concern".

Significantly, Dr Sean Conley said Trump had been given dexamethasone, a steroid. Doctors prescribe that drug for COVID-19 patients to combat lung damage caused by inflammation, which is one of the major ways the disease can kill patients. Experts had said previously that a decision to put Trump on the drug would be a major development.

Dr Conley had not answered a question on Saturday about whether Trump had been given any steroids and had also evaded repeated questions about supplemental oxygen. On Sunday, he acknowledged that he had omitted some information at the earlier briefing, saying he was "trying to reflect the upbeat attitude" of Trump and his aides.
"It came off that we were trying to hide something," he said, adding that had not been their intent. However, he continued to withhold some information, for example declining to say how low Trump's oxygen level had dropped. On Friday it fell "below 94 per cent" but hadn't hit "the low 80s", he said.

Trump's blood oxygen level currently stands at 98 per cent, Trump's medical team said. Blood oxygen saturation is a key health marker for COVID-19 patients. A normal reading is between 95 and 100. A drop below 90 is concerning.

The disclosure that Trump is receiving dexamethasone is a clear signal that his illness is a serious one, said Ashish Jha, dean of the Brown University School of Public Health. In an interview on Saturday, Jha said he would watch for use of dexamethasone, which would be a "very clear signal that he has a more severe disease".

Looks like Trump is not out of the woods yet.

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05 Oct 2020, 5:50 am

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. On Sunday, he acknowledged that he had omitted some information at the earlier briefing, saying he was "trying to reflect the upbeat attitude" of Trump and his aides.
"It came off that we were trying to hide something," he said, adding that had not been their intent.

They were hiding things, important things. They only had to disclose some of the Truth because Trump's chief of staff spilled the beans.

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05 Oct 2020, 11:06 am

McEnany tests positive for COVID-19

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White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany tested positive for COVID-19, she said Monday, making her the latest person in President Trump's orbit to contract the virus.

“After testing negative consistently, including every day since Thursday, I tested positive for COVID-19 on Monday morning while experiencing no symptoms. No reporters, producers or members of the press are listed as close contacts by the White House Medical Unit,” she said in a statement.

“As an essential worker, I have worked diligently to provide needed information to the American people at this time,” she continued. “With my recent positive test, I will begin the quarantine process and will continue working on behalf of the American people remotely.”

Her daughter got it also

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05 Oct 2020, 11:32 am

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Who's to say that's not the lie, that he's pretending to be not as ill as he really is?

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05 Oct 2020, 12:06 pm

Doctor Warns Trump's Coronavirus Treatment Can Cause Psychosis, Mania

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A doctor told CNN’s Wolf Blitzer on Sunday that the medication cocktail currently being given to President Donald Trump to treat coronavirus could have some serious side effects, including psychosis, mania and delirium.

Dr. Megan Ranney, an emergency physician and associate professor at Brown University, talked about the “very complex regimen of medications” the president is currently taking.

“Two of them, remdesivir and dexamethasone, are medications that we give in our hospital, even in our emergency department, with really sick patients with COVID-19,” she said, noting that those medications are usually only for “seriously ill patients.”

She went on to say that all of the medications Trump is taking can have side effects that could be damaging to the liver or heart, but warned that dexamethsaone “is known to have mental health side effects.”

“It can cause psychosis. It can cause delirium. It can cause mania,” Ranney said. “I would never want to say the president is experiencing steroid-induced psychosis, but it is certainly concerning to see some of his actions today in the wake of this potentially deadly diagnosis and infectious disease.”

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05 Oct 2020, 12:46 pm

A guy who might go into a steroid induced psychotic rage has access to the nuclear codes, and can push "the" button?

This all just keeps on getting better, and better!

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05 Oct 2020, 2:06 pm

Dr. Fauci won’t ‘go there’ on COVID-stricken Trump’s joy ride at Walter Reed

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Dr. Anthony Fauci suggested Monday he was less than impressed with President Trump’s joy ride outside Walter Reed National Military Medical Center.

The renowned infectious disease specialist pointedly refused to give his stamp of approval to Trump’s flouting guidelines to greet supporters gathered at the hospital where he is being treated for coronavirus.

"I don’t want to really go there ... and comment on that, OK?” Fauci told CNN.

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