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05 Oct 2020, 2:42 pm

Trump says he will leave hospital Monday, urges people not to fear the deadly virus

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President Donald Trump said that he will be leaving Walter Reed National Military Medical Center at 6:30 p.m. ET on Monday, just three days after he entered the hospital to be treated for the coronavirus.

Trump, in a tweet, said he is “feeling really good!” and told his nearly 87 million followers, “Don’t be afraid of Covid.”

Dr. Sean Conley, the White House physician, said the president’s condition has “continued to improve” over the past 24 hours, but cautioned that “he may not entirely be out of the woods yet.”


Translation:
FU the experts be like me and ignore guidelines.

6:30 PM just as the evening news on the east coast begin their broadcasts, what a coincidence(sarcasm).

I expect bullying of people who choose to wear a mask to ramp up if nothing further happens to him.

Why might something further happen to him?
How to Understand Trump’s Evolving Condition
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Doctors now recognize two broad and somewhat overlapping phases of COVID-19. In the first phase, it’s the replication of the virus that causes problems, such as shortness of breath; especially in the lungs, the virus has hijacked the body’s cells to multiply exponentially, and the immune system is fighting to tamp it down. It’s during this phase that antiviral drugs are thought to have their greatest effect; they are like reinforcements for the immune system, and they help to slow the replication of the virus. In the second phase, it’s the immune system itself that starts to become a problem. The virus provokes an immunological storm that wreaks havoc on many organs; the lungs are still at the center of the disease, but other systems get damaged, too. The body must now fight the virus while weathering its own overreaction. Most patients never enter this second, more dangerous phase, but those who do can grow seriously ill.


Even without a second phase, I envision Trump in order to look macho for the election, to own the libs may do too much too soon.


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05 Oct 2020, 2:44 pm

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A guy who might go into a steroid induced psychotic rage has access to the nuclear codes, and can push "the" button?

This all just keeps on getting better, and better! :D


The Joint Chiefs are the real braintrust, the power behind the throne, so to speak. When Richard Nixon was nearing the end of his presidency due to imminent impeachment, he started drinking heavily at night and becoming quite paranoid and reactionary [dare I say, Trump-like...?] and the Joint Chiefs decided to update the codes [which is apparently done on a regular basis, for OBVIOUS reasons] with non-legitimate ones as they viewed a drunk, psychotic [soon to abdicate], president as a threat to global security. This wasn't disclosed until the sometime in the past twenty years, but as Trump had indeed expressed interest at least once in issuing a preemptive nuclear strike on North Korea, and because he is... the way he is, I have had serious doubts for most of his term that he even has the real codes, especially in times such as this when his health is below normal functioning [even for him]. He clearly suffers from some sort of learning disability and/or psychosis [this is not coming from me, literally dozens of psychiatrists have expressed this since before he was elected], and I have no doubt that the System is well aware of this and contingency plans are underway to secure the Union with or without DJT's approval. There is far too much at stake to allow one man to run the show, this isn't a monarchy and it never has been.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Chiefs_of_Staff

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story ... xon-215478

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 17890.html


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06 Oct 2020, 12:37 am

I see the old boy is up and about in the white house



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06 Oct 2020, 12:42 am

cyberdad wrote:
I see the old boy is up and about in the white house

the only good thing about that is it saves us from a president pence.



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06 Oct 2020, 12:57 am

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I see the old boy is up and about in the white house


Thank goodness he's alive and well.

Now, Mr. President, the American people would like a word with you...


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06 Oct 2020, 1:05 am

I am still waiting for him to say "It is not a big deal if you get it." :roll: :lol:


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06 Oct 2020, 1:37 am

Keep in mind that the illness might return... It is not uncommon for COVID symptoms to fluctuate.

I have seen several references to days 7 to 10 after the infection being the most severe. If so (and assuming that Trump was indeed first diagnoses on Thursday 1 October) he could be at risk of becoming even more ill at the end of this week.



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06 Oct 2020, 2:49 am

Biden defends decision by Trump’s doctors to withhold medical information

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Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden defended the move by President Trump’s medical physicians to withhold all of the details of Trump’s visit to Walter Reed Medical Center.

“I’m not being critical of the fact that every single detail was not released,” Biden said, referring to the extent of information released by the doctors.

“There is the HIPAA rules that even apply to the president, but they have consequences for a president beyond the rules relating to what is able to be done and not done without a patient’s permission. They have national security implications as well.”

On balance, you have to tell the whole truth of what the — what had happened, what was happening and what’s going on,” Biden continued. “But, as moment to moment, I’m not sure that that is an absolute requirement.”


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06 Oct 2020, 4:22 am

According to Trump after returning back to work
"Don't be afraid of Covid. Don't let it dominate your life," Trump tweeted earlier Monday, even though his doctors had described worrying symptoms and he was treated with combination of experimental therapies unavailable to nearly anyone else.
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/10/05/poli ... index.html



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06 Oct 2020, 5:09 am

when he said those things, i very nearly hurled a jar of mayonnaise at the tv screen. the sheer unadulterated marie antoinette-style GALL and hypocrisy. mentioning the excellent health care that he wants to deny the rest of us.



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06 Oct 2020, 5:56 am

Apparently, a total of 33 individuals in Trumps orbit have now been infected by corona since October 1:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Hou ... d_positive

And these are just the confirmed cases...



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06 Oct 2020, 6:41 am

I love data analysis - and that table is a fine example. Truly, I'm not being sarcastic.
A gold star to whoever put that together - complete with 170 citations!

Now I understand a lot better:
(a) why no-one will say when Trump last tested negative; and
(b) why he's out of hospital already

The answer is because he likely caught covid back around 26th September - or even earlier.
But they can't admit that because quite likely he wasn't careful enough about mask-wearing and social distancing and may have since been spreading it around. Hence no confirmation of last date of negative test.
If so, that would mean he's had it for about 10 days - which would put him beyond the most dangerous period around the 7-10 day mark. Hence release from hospital.



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06 Oct 2020, 6:48 am

MrsPeel wrote:
I love data analysis - and that table is a fine example. Truly, I'm not being sarcastic.
A gold star to whoever put that together - complete with 170 citations!

Now I understand a lot better:
(a) why no-one will say when Trump last tested negative; and
(b) why he's out of hospital already

The answer is because he likely caught covid back around 26th September - or even earlier.
But they can't admit that because quite likely he wasn't careful enough about mask-wearing and social distancing and may have since been spreading it around. Hence no confirmation of last date of negative test.
If so, that would mean he's had it for about 10 days - which would put him beyond the most dangerous period around the 7-10 day mark. Hence release from hospital.


I thought the same thing, it seems quite probable.


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06 Oct 2020, 7:13 am

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Just to put things into perspective:

Here is the timeline for the UK prime minister, Boris Johnson:

27 March: Tested positive for coronavirus.
5 April: Admitted to hospital.
6 April: Admitted to intensive care.
9 April: Left intensive care.
12 April: Discharged from hospital.
26 April: Returned to work on Downing Street.


So Boris' worst 3 days came 10 days after testing positive.
Comparing that to the Trump timeline adds to my suspicion he'd been carrying it for a while without knowing.
(Or if not, he might get worse yet and I'm surprised they let him out of hospital).



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06 Oct 2020, 7:15 am

Looked like he was panting for breath outside the WH 8O



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06 Oct 2020, 7:18 am

Do you think it's OK for journos to be asking for so many details of Trump's health? Like, exactly how low did his oxygen level go, did he have a fever, what treatments is he taking?
Are they invading his privacy?
Or does that get trumped (excuse the unintended pun) by the public interest?