Even the Maya are getting sick of 2012 hype

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13 Oct 2009, 6:57 am

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But some say the Maya knew another secret: the Earth's axis wobbles, slightly changing the alignment of the stars every year. Once every 25,800 years, the sun lines up with the center of our Milky Way galaxy on a winter solstice, the sun's lowest point in the horizon.

That will happen on Dec. 21, 2012, when the sun appears to rise in the same spot where the bright center of galaxy sets.

Another spooky coincidence?

"The question I would ask these guys is, so what?" says Phil Plait, an astronomer who runs the "Bad Astronomy" blog. He says the alignment doesn't fall precisely in 2012, and distant stars exert no force that could harm Earth.


Tsk, tsk. A gamma ray burst most certainly could, if we were unlucky enough to get one nearby!

If one did arrive, the best possible case would be for it to come from a direction precisely on the other side of the sun from us (at least, it'd be an impressive gamma ray that got through a million miles of dense burny flameness, right?). It is also perhaps possible that the single most likely direction (assuming our local neighbourhood to be a roughly thousand ly deep plane of arbitrary length and width, with density increasing in the direction of the galactic centre) (though by only a tiny fraction) for a burst to arrive would be from a line between us and the galactic centre so the occasion when the sun is directly in line with galactic centre is quite possibly the single safest possible time for Earth for protection from cosmic death rays.

Wonder if the Mayans knew? :lol:

(well, really I suppose it's much more complicated, as the likelihood of a GRB isn't a function only of star density but changes with different environments, but hey) ;)

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13 Oct 2009, 5:58 pm

I didn't believe this 2012 apocylapse thing once.



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14 Oct 2009, 10:22 am

I help but thinking the Maya would have faired better in the last few 100yrs if they had some insight in to the future but they haven't so....



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20 Oct 2009, 3:12 pm

NASA Scientist to Distraught Dupes: The World Won't End in 2012

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The End Some would have us believe a planetary collision will end life on earth in 2012. NASA, and basic astronomy, tell us otherwise. NASA

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As it turns out, the end is not near after all. While you can't keep a good doomsday rumor down, NASA Senior Scientist David Morrison is trying to dispel widely circulated rumors that cosmic events will lead to the end of life on Earth, if not outright destroy the planet, on Dec. 21, 2012.

Morrison, a planetary astronomer and keeper of NASA's "Ask an Astrobiologist" service, is publishing a rebuttal to many rampant apocalyptic rumors in the journal of the Astronomical Society of the Pacific, partially in response to an increasing number of letters and emails from a public worried that the end is nigh. Morrison specifically addresses the myth that a fictional planet called Nibiru will collide with Earth, but also addresses other persistent rumors that solar activity, alignments with the center of our galaxy and other astrological phenomena will wreak havoc on the blue planet and end life here....


The World is not going to end with a bang but with a whimper....


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20 Oct 2009, 11:36 pm

Wait three years.



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21 Oct 2009, 12:55 am

Y'all are hilarious...... but I'm still scared. 8O jk



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21 Oct 2009, 4:12 am

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The End Some would have us believe a planetary collision will end life on earth in 2012. NASA, and basic astronomy, tell us otherwise. NASA


We would of course notice mysterious planets wandering about the solar system on anything like a regular basis, but it's vaguely possible that some random dark chunk of rock (say, a planet that had somehow been ejected from another solar system; it can happen) is swinging in towards us from interstellar space. It wouldn't actually need to hit us, or come anywhere near us, to have horrible consequences, it could mess up orbits in some way.

I'm having fun throwing random objects into this. 8)


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21 Oct 2009, 6:41 am

...though I should say clearly that I don't believe it's in any way likely that we're about to be hit by a colony drop®, just that while we'd probably notice anything massive, bright or going round the Sun on a regular basis - like all the silly Planet X stories (I just read up on this Nibiru rubbish 8O :lol: not just a giant planet of doom, but a giant magnetic planet of doom spinning the Earth down and up again! :lol: :lol: ) - it is not categorically true to state that the Earth could not have something headed in its general direction from way out in deep space.


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21 Oct 2009, 10:09 am

Ambivalence wrote:
richie wrote:
The End Some would have us believe a planetary collision will end life on earth in 2012. NASA, and basic astronomy, tell us otherwise. NASA


We would of course notice mysterious planets wandering about the solar system on anything like a regular basis, but it's vaguely possible that some random dark chunk of rock (say, a planet that had somehow been ejected from another solar system; it can happen) is swinging in towards us from interstellar space. It wouldn't actually need to hit us, or come anywhere near us, to have horrible consequences, it could mess up orbits in some way.

I'm having fun throwing random objects into this. 8)


All planets wander about the Solar System. The world "planet" is from the Greek "planeton" which means wanderer.

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21 Oct 2009, 4:07 pm

ruveyn wrote:
All planets wander about the Solar System. The world "planet" is from the Greek "planeton" which means wanderer.

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I'd get bored in the same area for a few thousand years, too



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22 Oct 2009, 4:57 am

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All planets wander about the Solar System. The world "planet" is from the Greek "planeton" which means wanderer.


Etymology notwithstanding, there are many different arguments over what is and isn't a planet. :)


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22 Oct 2009, 7:30 am

Ambivalence wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
All planets wander about the Solar System. The world "planet" is from the Greek "planeton" which means wanderer.


Etymology notwithstanding, there are many different arguments over what is and isn't a planet. :)


Pluto being a case in point. . .


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22 Oct 2009, 3:48 pm

Long Period Comet. Those with an orbital period of several hundred to several million years.

A comet's orbital period is related to it's mass, and it's orbit around the sun is wider.

Hale-Bopp had a 2,500 year period.

Both the Sumarians and Mayan report that every 26,000 years, The God Comes, and ends the age.

There is a rather large crater in Mauritania, 26,000 years ago, Barringer in Arizona, 52,000 years ago, and they have survived because of being in deserts. Four out of five strikes are in water, and the whole East Coast has a marine layer dating 26,000 years ago. Major craters show a 26,000 year interval.

52,000 years ago ended a long ice age, 26,000 years ago started one. 26,000 years fits the magnetic reversal shown along the spreading center at the mid Atlantic Ridge.

26,000 years is five Long Counts. The age of the Fifth Sun.

NASA says? What would the Government do? Run up debts like there is no tomorrow, knowing they will never have to pay them?

Comets are black on black till they pass the Gas Giants, then they light up, and keep coming.

The Persid and Leonid metor showers are from short period comets, thousands of little rocks an hour, big comets leave big rocks.

The odds of a direct hit are very small, 180 to 1, that going in or coming out it comes within a day of Earth.

The old stories say, His passage clenses the world, and brings a thousand years of peace.

As the younger races put it, next time the fire.



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23 Oct 2009, 12:01 pm

Well, if the world is going to end, then I better hurry up and win the lottery and do everything left to be done..Serious, such notion is realistic but, I doubt no one person(s) knows the exact timeline therefore, simply enjoy life...



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23 Oct 2009, 1:21 pm

I thought the world ended in the year 2000.


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