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22 Dec 2012, 1:29 pm

^^^^^True.
that's why I keep to myself.Bullies were always a bigger threat to me than I was to them.
But those of us that choose social isolation are now "the quiet person that kept to themselves",and in some people's eyes that is suspicious,not normal.



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22 Dec 2012, 1:44 pm

Misslizard wrote:
^^^^^True.
that's why I keep to myself.Bullies were always a bigger threat to me than I was to them.
But those of us that choose social isolation are now "the quiet person that kept to themselves",and in some people's eyes that is suspicious,not normal.


To the general question: "Is it safe?" the answer is generally NO.

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22 Dec 2012, 6:08 pm

Misslizard wrote:
^^^^^True.
that's why I keep to myself.Bullies were always a bigger threat to me than I was to them.
But those of us that choose social isolation are now "the quiet person that kept to themselves",and in some people's eyes that is suspicious,not normal.

You know what's ironic? When I was in school, all I heard from the teachers was "be quiet!" They got angry at us for talking! They wanted everyone to stay quiet all the time at school. So, we learned not to talk so much, par their orders. Now society goes and makes silence look like some great pathological indicator. It's like you can't win for losing. Talking makes them angry. Silence makes them afraid. So it's like, no matter what you do, someone is going to have an issue with it.



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22 Dec 2012, 6:20 pm

^^^^Same here,when little I got constant notes from school that I talked too much.I was made to feel embarrassed and belittled for some of the things I said.Way safer to keep my mouth shut.



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22 Dec 2012, 6:25 pm

No one ever mentions the fact you are told everyday as a kid to shut up and maybe that's why people don't like to talk? It's got nothing to do with any kind of pathology. More conditioning.



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22 Dec 2012, 8:13 pm

There were times when the class was getting out of hand when I felt like the only one still obeying the teacher.



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22 Dec 2012, 8:26 pm

It just seems so absurd what we go through as kids now they are trying to say being quiet is the problem. Oh good Lord some people make this life so confusing, difficult and painful!! ! Most teachers would say quiet is definitely NOT the problem.



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26 Dec 2012, 5:01 pm

Dr. Gupta tried, but I think he was off the mark. He should have emphasized that not everyone with Asperger's experience the same symptoms. He flatly, and erroneously, stated that children with Asperger's won't say hi back to you when you say hi to them first. He also left out the bits about stimming and sound/light/touch sensitivities. He neglected to explain that adults with Asperger's can sometimes experience social phobia and awkwardness to the point it interferes with common behaviours like finding a mate and making or keeping friends. Once again, his focus was on childhood Asperger's so he was just rattling off generalities he read somewhere. We all know about this spectrum and how we are all different. How many folks on the forum are like Dr. Spencer Reid or Dr. Sheldon Cooper? He stated that those with Asperger's tend to have higher than average intelligence. This is a stereotype. By that estimate alone, anyone who's studied calculus, physics or medicine qualifies as having Asperger's. Gupta meant well, but after seeing his short exposition, I don't see me at all - and I've been diagnosed by a clinical psychologist whose specialties are Asperger's Syndrome and Autism. Gupta tried though, so he does get an E for effort.



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26 Dec 2012, 6:49 pm

redrobin62 wrote:
Dr. Gupta tried, but I think he was off the mark. He should have emphasized that not everyone with Asperger's experience the same symptoms. He flatly, and erroneously, stated that children with Asperger's won't say hi back to you when you say hi to them first. He also left out the bits about stimming and sound/light/touch sensitivities. He neglected to explain that adults with Asperger's can sometimes experience social phobia and awkwardness to the point it interferes with common behaviours like finding a mate and making or keeping friends. Once again, his focus was on childhood Asperger's so he was just rattling off generalities he read somewhere. We all know about this spectrum and how we are all different. How many folks on the forum are like Dr. Spencer Reid or Dr. Sheldon Cooper? He stated that those with Asperger's tend to have higher than average intelligence. This is a stereotype. By that estimate alone, anyone who's studied calculus, physics or medicine qualifies as having Asperger's. Gupta meant well, but after seeing his short exposition, I don't see me at all - and I've been diagnosed by a clinical psychologist whose specialties are Asperger's Syndrome and Autism. Gupta tried though, so he does get an E for effort.


So basically, Gupta left out pretty much ALL the actual important stuff that actually defines Asperger's. Just like every other "professional" in America, he must get his information on Asperger's from TV shows.

I'm starting to question his credentials now.



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27 Dec 2012, 9:41 am

raisedbyignorance wrote:
redrobin62 wrote:
Dr. Gupta tried, but I think he was off the mark. He should have emphasized that not everyone with Asperger's experience the same symptoms. He flatly, and erroneously, stated that children with Asperger's won't say hi back to you when you say hi to them first. He also left out the bits about stimming and sound/light/touch sensitivities. He neglected to explain that adults with Asperger's can sometimes experience social phobia and awkwardness to the point it interferes with common behaviours like finding a mate and making or keeping friends. Once again, his focus was on childhood Asperger's so he was just rattling off generalities he read somewhere. We all know about this spectrum and how we are all different. How many folks on the forum are like Dr. Spencer Reid or Dr. Sheldon Cooper? He stated that those with Asperger's tend to have higher than average intelligence. This is a stereotype. By that estimate alone, anyone who's studied calculus, physics or medicine qualifies as having Asperger's. Gupta meant well, but after seeing his short exposition, I don't see me at all - and I've been diagnosed by a clinical psychologist whose specialties are Asperger's Syndrome and Autism. Gupta tried though, so he does get an E for effort.


So basically, Gupta left out pretty much ALL the actual important stuff that actually defines Asperger's. Just like every other "professional" in America, he must get his information on Asperger's from TV shows.

I'm starting to question his credentials now.


Dr. Sanjay Gupta was not trying to get into an indepth discussion of the nuances of Aspergers. He was trying to explain what Aspergers is, how it no way reflects the mindset of Adam lanza, and clear up some basic misconceptions. Dr. Gupta explained on Anderson Cooper 360 that he looked up the studies and he explained how he is not an expert in this field. He is a doctor of neurology/neuroscience..ASDs are not his primary field of study. Yes he is a doctor so he knows what it is, but he isn't a specialist.