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mikassyna
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07 Feb 2013, 12:05 am

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I loathe parents like this.


In contrast, I give the parents lots of credit. Despite the challenges, they are giving their child the best shot at a decent life. I know for myself, a good education from a top rate public school gave me something to grasp onto (academics) when there was nothing else to give me footing. I could speak articulately at job interviews and present myself well. At the very least I have been able to be self sufficient and--although late in life--manage to be in a healthy relationship. Giving up on your child is not the answer. I did read something somewhere else that a HFA or AS child will sink to the level the parents will allow. In other words: the higher the standards, the better the odds. That doesn't mean that challenges won't come up, because parents--no matter how well intended--cannot prepare a child for every possibility, and it is in those stray possibilities I think an autistic can get easily stumped. But so what? I bet most people would shrink away from hard work if they knew they could get away with it and still be rewarded. However, that also doesn't mean that their child will ultimately provide the outcome the parents desired, but that is a risk with any parent. But at least they didn't take the lazy way out and say, "Well, it's too much for the poor kid, let's let him/her get away with doing as little as possible!" THOSE are the parents that *I* loathe!



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07 Feb 2013, 12:57 am

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There are savant intellectual and creative gifts that come with autism which are not present in the greater community.


I see no evidence of that.


Have you looked for it before?



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07 Feb 2013, 2:00 am

mikassyna wrote:
noxnocturne wrote:
Tequila wrote:

I loathe parents like this.


In contrast, I give the parents lots of credit. Despite the challenges, they are giving their child the best shot at a decent life. I know for myself, a good education from a top rate public school gave me something to grasp onto (academics) when there was nothing else to give me footing. I could speak articulately at job interviews and present myself well. At the very least I have been able to be self sufficient and--although late in life--manage to be in a healthy relationship. Giving up on your child is not the answer. I did read something somewhere else that a HFA or AS child will sink to the level the parents will allow. In other words: the higher the standards, the better the odds. That doesn't mean that challenges won't come up, because parents--no matter how well intended--cannot prepare a child for every possibility, and it is in those stray possibilities I think an autistic can get easily stumped. But so what? I bet most people would shrink away from hard work if they knew they could get away with it and still be rewarded. However, that also doesn't mean that their child will ultimately provide the outcome the parents desired, but that is a risk with any parent. But at least they didn't take the lazy way out and say, "Well, it's too much for the poor kid, let's let him/her get away with doing as little as possible!" THOSE are the parents that *I* loathe!


I think what noxnocturn meant were parents who don't see their autistic child as acceptable, and so try to make the child "normal."

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08 Feb 2013, 12:24 pm

ripped wrote:
Have you looked for it before?


Why do you think I say that it is exceptional?

You are the one who is propounding the notion that, "There are savant intellectual and creative gifts that come with autism which are not present in the greater community." The burden of proof lies upon you to present evidence to support this proposition.

For my part, it strikes me as a ridiculous notion. It is intuitively unsatisfactory because there are clearly autistics who present no savant gifts. Even the loosest definition of savantism would only suggest that 10% of autistics present savant skills.

Further, there are savants who are not autistic--roughly 50% of people identified with savant skills present no autistic traits, or insufficient traits to merit diagnosis.

http://rstb.royalsocietypublishing.org/ ... /1522/1351


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