Shooting on Capital Hill

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Wait, did the lady fire, or did the cops fore to stop her from running them over? It is kinda hard to shoot and drive at the same time.

It no longer matters, since I just got an alert on my iPad from the NYTimes that the lady is dead.

Her name was Miriam Carey, a dental hygienist from Stamford, CT. There was a report of her having mental illness issues. She was unarmed...

I saw one of the videos - the one where she was surrounded by cops and they were pointing weapons. I wonder if it was that she simply panicked and tried to run away. Nowadays, they shoot first - even when there's a baby in the car. I also wonder if they knew there was a baby present? The video shows them really close to her vehicle at the beginning. I don't see how they could have not seen the kid...

It probably wasn't the smartest move for the cops to shoot at a fleeing vehicle in a crowded city like D.C. Assuming that they used hollow points, if they miss the bullet will just continue on its path of trajectory.

Wow. So they put the whole area on lockdown mode and made an entire city panic all because of shots POLICE were firing? Something tells me this wasn't the smartest way they handled the situation.

Something tells me that a lot of people have never served in the military or on a police force.

What we know so far:

• The incident began at 15th and Pennsylvania Ave NW around 2:12 p.m. ET Thursday. That's at the edge of the White House grounds near the Treasury Department.
  
• At the White House, a Secret Service agent was struck by the vehicle. Near the Capitol, a U.S. Capitol Police officer was injured when his vehicle was involved in a collision. Both are expected to be OK.
  
• It ended a few miles away near the U.S. Capitol, leaving a suspect - identified by law enforcement sources as 34-year-old Miriam Carey - dead.
  
• A child who was traveling with the woman in the car is OK and in protective custody.
  
• The event appears to be an isolated incident, not linked to terrorism, according to Capitol Police.

If someone tried to run me over with a car,and I could not get out of the way,I would have every right to defend myself.If I thought the person was going to run down other people,I would have the right to defend them.It is a shame that they could not have disabled the vehicle and apprehended her without killing her,but it's hard to imagine the panic those officers were going through.They would be wondering if this was a terrorist,is there more of them,are there bombs,all this would be going through their head.
I lock my gate all the time,if a vehicle rams it,and starts heading for my house,I'm pretty sure it's not a Jehovah's Witness.
I'm just thinking we have another example of the failure of mental health care here.

The woman's family confirmed she was suffering from postpartum depression -- poor lady. (no whispers of autism -- whew ). Her relatives have no idea why she would have driven down to D.C. from Connecticutt, much less done so with her baby in her car and then do what she did with the baby in the car. The only thing I can figure is that there may have been some idea of "suicide by cop", but with her baby While I really wish they could have just shot out her tires, the action of hitting the Secret Service Officer and heading off to a more public area may have affected procedure on the decision of how much force was justified. There was no word on the news this morning whether they knew about the baby. However, I imagine the Capitol Police have SWAT-like training on accurately targeting the perpetrator. If they did know that the baby was in the car, they might even have thought her an imminent danger to the baby, which may indeed have been the deciding factor to take her out.

A federal law enforcement official says the woman killed by police after trying to drive through barricades outside the White House had believed the president was communicating with her and was delusional.

It's a shame that she had to die, but it's easy to judge in hindsight. At the time they have to assume the worst.

Science needs to get to it and invent those stun phasers.

Miriam Carey

A pedestrian cant even go into a DC museum on the mall nowadays without going through metal detectors.

So obviously someone in a car ramming barricades around the White House and Capitol is going to attract the threat of deadly force. And the car windows were tinted( it appears from the clips). Instead of one mom, and her baby, it couldve been five burly Al Queda thugs in the car festooned with bullet belts and heavy machine guns, for all any outsider could tell.

So the predictable thing happen, and she is dead. She picked the wrong time and place to flip out and go crazy on the road.

Sad, but you cant really blame the cops for just doing their jobs.