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10 Oct 2014, 4:34 pm

Sorry folks, this year's Nobel Peace Prize did not go to Edward Snowden or Pope Francis. :lol:

http://www.theverge.com/2014/10/10/6956 ... -satyarthi


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10 Oct 2014, 10:52 pm

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the pope (before he was pope) was involved in the cover-up of children being raped by priests and hasn't done much to remedy that. i don't see him being a good candidate, either, though i do appreciate his taking a stance on the evil of income inequality.

"Children being raped." Uh huh. It sounds like you're a parrot of anti-Catholic talking points. The "evil" of income inequality? Did Jesus ever talk about that? Was Jesus insensitive and mean? Actually, if you read the Gospels, you'd probably find him really judgmental. Also, he didn't choose any women to be his apostles.

Anyway, the pope shouldn't be talking economics. That's not his job.


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10 Oct 2014, 11:35 pm

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I just wonder, do you accept that the NSA or any other agencies (for those living elsewhere in the world) spy on you on a daily basis? All that in the name of security?
Are you willing to accept to lose some of your freedoms just to get a little security? I'm not, I prefer living in a world with a higher risk of a bomb being set off than losing only 1inch of freedoms, and if we get attacked, then we answer back to the attacks with more freedoms, more rights... After all those attacking us hate us for your freedoms, and when the states put more surveillance on the people, take away freedoms to protect us, it's basically what the enemy wants. And so far they are winning. If what I'm saying makes any sense?
So yes, Snowden and Assange are modern day heroes.

The problem is that Snowden has taken refuge in Russia, which is not exactly a democracy anymore. The russian government supress the freedom of it's citizen much more that the US government, and yet Snowden is fine to take refuge there; don't sound like someone who really care about freedom to me.



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10 Oct 2014, 11:35 pm

They went with the safe choice.


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11 Oct 2014, 12:48 am

Way to go Malala! She's amazing and I'm happy to see her win the award.

Snowden is not in Russia to support Putin. He's cornered with few other alternatives.

If he were arrested, he'd be treated like a Guantanamo Bay prisoner; the Espionage Act would prevent him from getting a fair trial.



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11 Oct 2014, 12:50 am

You people are all pathetic with your rabid hatred of Obama and your rage at his having received this award. Based on the content of some of the posts you haters toss around regarding Obama I don't think any of you are capable of actually understanding what the Nobel Peace prize is all about. Some of you people, I believe, will be cursing Obama for some reason or other even on your death bed, even if that time is 50 years away. Give the hate a break, for Christs sake.



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11 Oct 2014, 12:54 am

Tollorin wrote:
SpirosD wrote:
I just wonder, do you accept that the NSA or any other agencies (for those living elsewhere in the world) spy on you on a daily basis? All that in the name of security?
Are you willing to accept to lose some of your freedoms just to get a little security? I'm not, I prefer living in a world with a higher risk of a bomb being set off than losing only 1inch of freedoms, and if we get attacked, then we answer back to the attacks with more freedoms, more rights... After all those attacking us hate us for your freedoms, and when the states put more surveillance on the people, take away freedoms to protect us, it's basically what the enemy wants. And so far they are winning. If what I'm saying makes any sense?
So yes, Snowden and Assange are modern day heroes.

The problem is that Snowden has taken refuge in Russia, which is not exactly a democracy anymore. The russian government supress the freedom of it's citizen much more that the US government, and yet Snowden is fine to take refuge there; don't sound like someone who really care about freedom to me.


FWIW Snowden didn't choose Russia, he was in transit in Moscow with a ticket to Havana onward to Ecuador or elsewhere in Latin America to claim asylum when the State Department revoked his passport purposely so they could try to paint him as some Russian spy. He was forced to ask for asylum in Russia, he was living in the airport like the movie 'The Terminal' since he was a stateless person and could not leave.



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11 Oct 2014, 1:11 am

Jacoby wrote:
Tollorin wrote:
SpirosD wrote:
I just wonder, do you accept that the NSA or any other agencies (for those living elsewhere in the world) spy on you on a daily basis? All that in the name of security?
Are you willing to accept to lose some of your freedoms just to get a little security? I'm not, I prefer living in a world with a higher risk of a bomb being set off than losing only 1inch of freedoms, and if we get attacked, then we answer back to the attacks with more freedoms, more rights... After all those attacking us hate us for your freedoms, and when the states put more surveillance on the people, take away freedoms to protect us, it's basically what the enemy wants. And so far they are winning. If what I'm saying makes any sense?
So yes, Snowden and Assange are modern day heroes.

The problem is that Snowden has taken refuge in Russia, which is not exactly a democracy anymore. The russian government supress the freedom of it's citizen much more that the US government, and yet Snowden is fine to take refuge there; don't sound like someone who really care about freedom to me.


FWIW Snowden didn't choose Russia, he was in transit in Moscow with a ticket to Havana onward to Ecuador or elsewhere in Latin America to claim asylum when the State Department revoked his passport purposely so they could try to paint him as some Russian spy. He was forced to ask for asylum in Russia, he was living in the airport like the movie 'The Terminal' since he was a stateless person and could not leave.


Do you get tired of being baited and used by people telling you that you are losing your freedom all the time? When will you figure out that you are being wanked around by someone who is using you to get something for themselves? What does the average cell phone or internet user do that they are so concerned about their privacy and security. There are members in WP who are just as capable as any government agency of tapping into you and seeing what you are doing. If people are doing nothing nefarious I see no reason to be concerned about loss of freedom for security sake. I have more important things to worry about than wondering if some spy agency is watching me play "count to 1000 by 7's" on WP all day.



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11 Oct 2014, 1:22 am

khaoz wrote:
You people are all pathetic with your rabid hatred of Obama and your rage at his having received this award. Based on the content of some of the posts you haters toss around regarding Obama I don't think any of you are capable of actually understanding what the Nobel Peace prize is all about. Some of you people, I believe, will be cursing Obama for some reason or other even on your death bed, even if that time is 50 years away. Give the hate a break, for Christs sake.


What are you even talking about? The only mention of Obama in this thread was an offhand remark on the first page, the only hateful ranting here is in your posts.


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11 Oct 2014, 3:47 pm

Dox47 wrote:
They went with the safe choice.


Not really. IMO, while Malala did indeed deserve the Nobel Peace Prize, like many, I agree that Pope Francis was the safer choice.


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17 Oct 2014, 9:23 am

I pray Bergoglio does not get this prize, as he hasn't done a darn thing to earn it. To be blunt, I think he's the pope from hell.


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17 Oct 2014, 11:39 am

AnonymousAnonymous wrote:
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/10/edward-snowden-and-pope-francis-tipped-for-wide-open-nobel-peace-prize/

In many articles, Malala, the Afghan campaigner for female public education has stated that she feels that she is not ready for the Nobel Peace Prize, so therefore the Nobel Commitee should listen to her and wait until they feel she is ready to receive the Nobel Peace Prize. However, the Nobel Commitee should consider creating a new category in her honor; the Nobel Prize For Education.

Snowden is just a self-centered d-bag who got his wish by making a name for himself. BTW, that's just my opinion of Snowden.

Therefore, I'm predicting Pope Francis to be the winner for the 2014 Nobel Peace Prize.

Who do you think should win this year's Nobel Peace Prize?


I'd vote for Snowden( i did not detect much d-baggery from him) the pope already gets plenty of recognition so it would be a bit redundant to give it to him maybe....can only one person get it a year?


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17 Oct 2014, 11:40 am

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Based on who peace prizes are given to these days Obama will probably get another one for doing absolutely nothing! :lol:


It could be worse. According to the Raw Story article, Vladimir Putin is rumored to be on the list to win this year's Nobel Peace Prize.


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Besides obviously he's a vampire if his names vladimir...


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17 Oct 2014, 11:43 am

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I'd rather see Snowden thrown into prison.


For what exactly? And what good would it do.....I am curious.


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22 Oct 2014, 4:38 pm

SpirosD wrote:
I just wonder, do you accept that the NSA or any other agencies (for those living elsewhere in the world) spy on you on a daily basis? All that in the name of security?
Are you willing to accept to lose some of your freedoms just to get a little security? I'm not, I prefer living in a world with a higher risk of a bomb being set off than losing only 1inch of freedoms, and if we get attacked, then we answer back to the attacks with more freedoms, more rights... After all those attacking us hate us for your freedoms, and when the states put more surveillance on the people, take away freedoms to protect us, it's basically what the enemy wants. And so far they are winning. If what I'm saying makes any sense?
So yes, Snowden and Assange are modern day heroes.

Assange showed us what a modern day hero he was when he refused to go to Sweden to face rape charges. Snowden is no better.



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22 Oct 2014, 8:49 pm

progaspie wrote:
SpirosD wrote:
I just wonder, do you accept that the NSA or any other agencies (for those living elsewhere in the world) spy on you on a daily basis? All that in the name of security?
Are you willing to accept to lose some of your freedoms just to get a little security? I'm not, I prefer living in a world with a higher risk of a bomb being set off than losing only 1inch of freedoms, and if we get attacked, then we answer back to the attacks with more freedoms, more rights... After all those attacking us hate us for your freedoms, and when the states put more surveillance on the people, take away freedoms to protect us, it's basically what the enemy wants. And so far they are winning. If what I'm saying makes any sense?
So yes, Snowden and Assange are modern day heroes.

Assange showed us what a modern day hero he was when he refused to go to Sweden to face rape charges. Snowden is no better.


Yea, bogus "rape" charges that could have him end up being extradited to the US who threatened him with at best a quick execution but more likely a lifetime of torture. Snowden would get it even worse. These men are heroes, they have no choice but to flee a tyrannical evil government.