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Murihiku
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16 Dec 2014, 11:19 pm

^ On the other side of the coin, I'm really proud to see Australians rally in support of Muslims as a whole. I was worried that there would be a backlash against moderate Muslims in the wake of the hostage crisis, like what happened in the Cronulla riots. But so far I haven't heard any reports of major Islamophobic incidents. The whole #illridewithyou trend on social media was touching. Solidarity and mateship in the face of adversity: makes me proud of this country. :)


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17 Dec 2014, 9:34 am

Murihiku wrote:
^ On the other side of the coin, I'm really proud to see Australians rally in support of Muslims as a whole. I was worried that there would be a backlash against moderate Muslims in the wake of the hostage crisis, like what happened in the Cronulla riots. But so far I haven't heard any reports of major Islamophobic incidents. The whole #illridewithyou trend on social media was touching. Solidarity and mateship in the face of adversity: makes me proud of this country. :)

i find the "aussies all joined together in a spirit of love" stuff that is being trotted out in the media rather nauseating.
i think the police caused most of the injuries in the cafe if not all of them. it is reported that the gunman executed the 24 year old which triggered their ingress with the stun grenades. no reporter heard any gunshots from the premises (before the police storming in) in the dead of night whilst their ears were trained on anything they could hear to relieve the boredom that was settling in to their reports that were going stale to the point of being punctuated by file footage of other terrorist incidents as far back as 1979.

whatever, i do not know. i think that the sensationalism is bald faced however and they replay over and over the "best" snippets of footage in slow motion with various backing music that is their emotional interpretation of what happened. like "he aint heavy" etc. good grief. gag me with a spoon.



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17 Dec 2014, 10:16 am

I'm with the robot. The "ridewithyou" stuff is clearly agenda driven. Oz has little in the way of violent backlash against minority/racial/religious groups (comparatively speaking), and one little hostage situation isn't going to change that.

Yeah, it's nice that people show support, but it's not needed.

But hey, I'm cynical.



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17 Dec 2014, 10:44 am

i have no idea what they need or what is useful to them.
when i see the mateship stuff and the sepia colored artistic re renderings of the footage "highlights" i think there will shortly be a mcdonalds ad or something because it seems crafted to garner the most public approval possible in order to make for a well placed pizza hut ad that immediately follows (and which therefore commands a premium fee).

it is also quite interesting that the majority of the australian public are seduced by such "bambi falls in love with cinderella" styled representation.


anyway, in further reply to the general thread, here is an old australian comedy episode which illustrates an interesting parody of a typical newsroom during a siege that i found amusing. it is well worth watching.
(the ginger headed woman is the unsung hero)



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17 Dec 2014, 4:44 pm

Wasn't long before Abbot brought up gunz and how the dude supposedly had a license (without actually looking into it). The police said no.

Good job. Start the blame game of everyone but the person responsible.

(I like to think I'm cynical for a reason.)



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18 Dec 2014, 11:06 am

I thought Australia was extremely anti-gun?
Anyway, if you run into a cafe with an axe you'll be able to kill a lot more than two people before the sniper team shoots you in the face.



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18 Dec 2014, 12:21 pm

trollcatman wrote:
I thought Australia was extremely anti-gun?


Depends on where you live and who you talk to; the media and politicians often are though. I've never spoken to a common citizen in suburban and rural QLD that's such.

It's immaterial for this case though. Shotguns cut down have been illegal for a long time. You can't ban something that's already banned (and the old adage of, criminals have access to everything around anyway, comes into play; that's proven time and time again).