Autistic Man grows 46DD bust on Risperdal

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16 Oct 2015, 2:26 pm

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I have a family member who took (or takes?) Risperdal for hallucinations. What would be the point of giving it to autistic kids? I don't study kids so I'm not up on that sort of thing.

From what I read there are still families out there that swear by that risperdal, saying they'd rather have a boy with boobs than to have to deal with him without the medication. I understand it was supposed to help with dangerous behaviours like self-harm in cases of severe autism. As I stated earlier, I'm sprouting boobs without it and could only imagine what I might look like by now had I taken the stuff.

Again, though...giving an endocrine disruptor to anyone who has not completed puberty will likely affect them neurologically for the rest of their life, something it has never been tested for in any way. That's a pretty big consideration that I fear few - if any - of the applicable doctors contemplate. Apart from actual endocrinologists, it's as if they are completely unaware of the issue.


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16 Oct 2015, 4:34 pm

While this is unfortunate for the man, I would like to say that I tolerate Risperidone fairly well (only had minor headaches and developed hyperprolactinemia - lactating after which my psychatrist forced me off it because it could had bad consequences in the long run - but that was an uncommon side effect) and for the benefits I didn't find it 'evil'.

I now take Quetiapine.



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17 Oct 2015, 12:41 am

I categorize Risperidal with Thorazine. That is, an emergency treatment or last resort for someone suffering from psychosis or extreme anxiety, to make them start eating and sleeping again. I feel like it should not be taken for a long time.



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17 Oct 2015, 1:20 am

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YippySkippy, "moobs" (male pseudo-breasts from being overweight) don't typically have the same structure as women's breasts unless there are other endocrine issues involved.

If there was a risk of gynecomastia the drug acts as an endocrine disruptor. It should never have been given to a pre-pubescent child of either sex.

What I don't quite understand is why the drug manufacturer is the primary one getting sued, not the doctor and hospital who prescribed it despite the known side effects and actions of the drug.


yup. the doc should have stopped it when the breasts started to appear.



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17 Oct 2015, 1:22 am

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I categorize Risperidal with Thorazine. That is, an emergency treatment or last resort for someone suffering from psychosis or extreme anxiety, to make them start eating and sleeping again. I feel like it should not be taken for a long time.



that is an interesting way to feel. fact is that many people would become psychotic again without taking the drugs long-term.



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17 Oct 2015, 8:48 pm

Is it just me, or does it just seem that strange and bad things happen in particular to autistic people?


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18 Oct 2015, 12:59 am

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Where can I get some of that?

It's for man's breast, meaning for females it probably provides a reduction...yay pharmaceuticals!

it also grows female breasts, i know. i was on it. however, the same breast-stimulating hormone that is uninhibited, prolactin, also causes a lack of orgasms.



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18 Oct 2015, 5:27 am

Yikes. I took that when I was a teenager. Didn't gain weight though



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18 Oct 2015, 2:16 pm

I think this is what happens when legal drug pushers, otherwise known as psychiatrists give out drugs like candy. It's not just people with autism who can have stuff like this happen, but anyone who is slightly different as there have been times when parents have been pushed to medicate their child with ADD to keep them from being kicked out of school.



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20 Oct 2015, 11:39 pm

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I have a family member who took (or takes?) Risperdal for hallucinations. What would be the point of giving it to autistic kids? I don't study kids so I'm not up on that sort of thing.


It promotes docility and reduces violence without all the hassle of, you know, setting a good example through non-violent parenting.

Been on it myself as a kid, knew a lot of other boys who were on it during my time in the system. Not a single one of us who weren't hit by our parents / caregivers.


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20 Oct 2015, 11:42 pm

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I categorize Risperidal with Thorazine. That is, an emergency treatment or last resort for someone suffering from psychosis or extreme anxiety, to make them start eating and sleeping again. I feel like it should not be taken for a long time.


that is an interesting way to feel. fact is that many people would become psychotic again without taking the drugs long-term.


You might have a point if this weren't a thread about an Autistic man (note, not a psychotic man) suffering an adverse reaction to a drug being prescribed off-label.


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21 Oct 2015, 1:31 am

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I have a family member who took (or takes?) Risperdal for hallucinations. What would be the point of giving it to autistic kids? I don't study kids so I'm not up on that sort of thing.


It promotes docility and reduces violence without all the hassle of, you know, setting a good example through non-violent parenting.

Been on it myself as a kid, knew a lot of other boys who were on it during my time in the system. Not a single one of us who weren't hit by our parents / caregivers.


I have a friend who has a medium functioning autistic son who is about 16. Abut a year ago he said he started hearing voices telling him to do some things that would cause mild injury to himself and he would do that. She took him to the doctor and he suggested Risperdal. He's been on it close to a year and doing better although lately he hasn't been sleeping as well and he's been very nervous, although that could be from high school.

He's far from docile, but he's not violent unless he has a meltdown. His mother is very kind and gentle and never laid a hand on him and is much more lenient on him than she is on her other kids. He rarely get's privelages taken away or punished at all. There has never been any violent parenting there, and in fact she has argued with me about spanking any kid because she's very against it and I'm not. I have four kids and I spank when need be, or rather I used to - mine are now grown. He's never been hit except by one of his siblings two or three times in their lives - but that is within normal limits of childhood.

He hasn't grown boobs, but he's a pretty chunky kid to begin with so he already had a slight case of moobs to begin with. He's healthy though.

The doctor isn't sure if he's schizophrenic but he's sure that the problem has stopped. They weren't able to determine if he actually heard voices or it was his imagination because of how he explained it to them but either way this med has helped him greatly.


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21 Oct 2015, 1:54 am

Have been taking it for two years now.

I'll take the threat of bigger boobs over the self-harm, aggression, and irritability any day.

Luckily, I'm an adult and can make my own decisions. Kids aren't so lucky.


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21 Oct 2015, 12:41 pm

OliveOilMom wrote:
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SocOfAutism wrote:
I have a family member who took (or takes?) Risperdal for hallucinations. What would be the point of giving it to autistic kids? I don't study kids so I'm not up on that sort of thing.


It promotes docility and reduces violence without all the hassle of, you know, setting a good example through non-violent parenting.

Been on it myself as a kid, knew a lot of other boys who were on it during my time in the system. Not a single one of us who weren't hit by our parents / caregivers.


I have a friend who has a medium functioning autistic son who is about 16. Abut a year ago he said he started hearing voices telling him to do some things that would cause mild injury to himself and he would do that. She took him to the doctor and he suggested Risperdal. He's been on it close to a year and doing better although lately he hasn't been sleeping as well and he's been very nervous, although that could be from high school.

He's far from docile, but he's not violent unless he has a meltdown. His mother is very kind and gentle and never laid a hand on him and is much more lenient on him than she is on her other kids. He rarely get's privelages taken away or punished at all. There has never been any violent parenting there, and in fact she has argued with me about spanking any kid because she's very against it and I'm not. I have four kids and I spank when need be, or rather I used to - mine are now grown. He's never been hit except by one of his siblings two or three times in their lives - but that is within normal limits of childhood.

He hasn't grown boobs, but he's a pretty chunky kid to begin with so he already had a slight case of moobs to begin with. He's healthy though.

The doctor isn't sure if he's schizophrenic but he's sure that the problem has stopped. They weren't able to determine if he actually heard voices or it was his imagination because of how he explained it to them but either way this med has helped him greatly.


I don't have much problem with prescribing antipsychotics to treat psychosis, which is what you're describing. The question to which I was responding was "Why would they treat an Autistic child with risperidone?" not "Why would they treat a psychotic child (who incidentally happens to be Autistic) with risperidone?"


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22 Oct 2015, 4:00 pm

RhodyStruggle wrote:
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SocOfAutism wrote:
I have a family member who took (or takes?) Risperdal for hallucinations. What would be the point of giving it to autistic kids? I don't study kids so I'm not up on that sort of thing.


It promotes docility and reduces violence without all the hassle of, you know, setting a good example through non-violent parenting.

Been on it myself as a kid, knew a lot of other boys who were on it during my time in the system. Not a single one of us who weren't hit by our parents / caregivers.


I have a friend who has a medium functioning autistic son who is about 16. Abut a year ago he said he started hearing voices telling him to do some things that would cause mild injury to himself and he would do that. She took him to the doctor and he suggested Risperdal. He's been on it close to a year and doing better although lately he hasn't been sleeping as well and he's been very nervous, although that could be from high school.

He's far from docile, but he's not violent unless he has a meltdown. His mother is very kind and gentle and never laid a hand on him and is much more lenient on him than she is on her other kids. He rarely get's privelages taken away or punished at all. There has never been any violent parenting there, and in fact she has argued with me about spanking any kid because she's very against it and I'm not. I have four kids and I spank when need be, or rather I used to - mine are now grown. He's never been hit except by one of his siblings two or three times in their lives - but that is within normal limits of childhood.

He hasn't grown boobs, but he's a pretty chunky kid to begin with so he already had a slight case of moobs to begin with. He's healthy though.

The doctor isn't sure if he's schizophrenic but he's sure that the problem has stopped. They weren't able to determine if he actually heard voices or it was his imagination because of how he explained it to them but either way this med has helped him greatly.


I don't have much problem with prescribing antipsychotics to treat psychosis, which is what you're describing. The question to which I was responding was "Why would they treat an Autistic child with risperidone?" not "Why would they treat a psychotic child (who incidentally happens to be Autistic) with risperidone?"


It's quite possible that the fact that he might have been hearing voices or other such symptoms weren't mentioned. Not everything in a person's medical record or chart is going to go into an article. I usually assume that the doctor had a reason for prescribing what he did, unless otherwise stated. Not everybody is careless, malicious, or just out to get autistics.


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OliveOilMom wrote:
RhodyStruggle wrote:
OliveOilMom wrote:
RhodyStruggle wrote:
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I have a family member who took (or takes?) Risperdal for hallucinations. What would be the point of giving it to autistic kids? I don't study kids so I'm not up on that sort of thing.


It promotes docility and reduces violence without all the hassle of, you know, setting a good example through non-violent parenting.

Been on it myself as a kid, knew a lot of other boys who were on it during my time in the system. Not a single one of us who weren't hit by our parents / caregivers.


I have a friend who has a medium functioning autistic son who is about 16. Abut a year ago he said he started hearing voices telling him to do some things that would cause mild injury to himself and he would do that. She took him to the doctor and he suggested Risperdal. He's been on it close to a year and doing better although lately he hasn't been sleeping as well and he's been very nervous, although that could be from high school.

He's far from docile, but he's not violent unless he has a meltdown. His mother is very kind and gentle and never laid a hand on him and is much more lenient on him than she is on her other kids. He rarely get's privelages taken away or punished at all. There has never been any violent parenting there, and in fact she has argued with me about spanking any kid because she's very against it and I'm not. I have four kids and I spank when need be, or rather I used to - mine are now grown. He's never been hit except by one of his siblings two or three times in their lives - but that is within normal limits of childhood.

He hasn't grown boobs, but he's a pretty chunky kid to begin with so he already had a slight case of moobs to begin with. He's healthy though.

The doctor isn't sure if he's schizophrenic but he's sure that the problem has stopped. They weren't able to determine if he actually heard voices or it was his imagination because of how he explained it to them but either way this med has helped him greatly.


I don't have much problem with prescribing antipsychotics to treat psychosis, which is what you're describing. The question to which I was responding was "Why would they treat an Autistic child with risperidone?" not "Why would they treat a psychotic child (who incidentally happens to be Autistic) with risperidone?"


It's quite possible that the fact that he might have been hearing voices or other such symptoms weren't mentioned. Not everything in a person's medical record or chart is going to go into an article. I usually assume that the doctor had a reason for prescribing what he did, unless otherwise stated. Not everybody is careless, malicious, or just out to get autistics.


The question to which I was responding was "Why would they treat an Autistic child with risperidone?" not "Why did they treat this particular Autistic child with risperidone?"

I provided a possible answer to that question, based upon my own lived experience. I never claimed that my answer was exhaustive or even necessarily applicable, merely possibly applicable.

I'm just going to assume that you need to brush up on how logical quantification actually works - because the alternative is a lot uglier, and I don't like attributing to malice what can be explained by ignorance.


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