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xenocity
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06 Jun 2016, 9:18 pm

RoadRatt wrote:
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There is no voter supression in primary season.


Again, bullsh*t.

Voter suppression is built into the primaries with closed primaries. Then there have been the states like New York where 100,000+ voters were purged, same in California though not as many. Arizona was straight up suppression with the voting station closures, though from what I read that was a GOP test for future voter suppression across the country. Arizona wasn't the only state to close voting stations in order to suppress votes. This is just a few examples of voter suppression that took place.

Then of course there are the undemocratic super delegates which are there to give the establishment a say in who our nominee will be. Sure they have never overturned a primary but they are still there to "rig" the system.


Again quit reading and posting conspiracy theories.

Only AZ has gone to court and was quickly settled by Federal Courts, which found no wrong doing on behalf of the state.
AZ is a very conservative state with tons of polling stations that typically receive low voter turn out, which is why they were closed.

CA purged the voters who wrongly registered for other parties, while intending to register as Democrats and Republican.
CA gave them time to register properly by even sending out information on how to do it properly.
For some damn reason every primary season, many voters are unable to understand the process while 99% of eligible voters have no issue getting registered and voting properly.
Yet those who have trouble claim FRAUD!!

This primary season has had no systematic voter fraud, nor any real issues.
Though the only major issue from this primary season was Nevada State Convention, which Sanders Campaign was cited for it.

The last election that had real voter fraud was 2004 and even then it was centered in Ohio and no other state, winning the state for Bush.
The next election back is 1960, where FRAUD was claimed, but only proven circumstantially not factual.
This fraud supposed won JFK the election.

Then the next election back after that is 1880.

The U.S. has only seen 4 or 5 national elections with actual voter fraud.


By law, if you are in line when polls close in your state, you cannot be denied from voting.

GOP has done many corrupt things in it's history, but closing polling stations to spite people is not one of them (as of yet).

It costs lots of money to keep a polling station open and staffed, which is why low voter turnout stations get shut down on a regular basis.


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07 Jun 2016, 9:45 am

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We have articles from the 1990s with Bernie hating on the Democrats exclusively while being nice to the GOP.


"We"?

As in the country and people.

We is the most proper word to use in a sentence like that.


Do we have links?


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"Bernie alienates his natural allies," said Rep. Barney Frank (D-Mass.). "His holier-than-thou attitude--saying in a very loud voice he is smarter than everyone else and purer than everyone else --really undercuts his effectiveness.
http://articles.latimes.com/1991-09-08/ ... ajor-party"


That's from a September 8th 1991 interview with U.S. House members, which includes the Sanders in his first term.

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When the legislators discovered that, because of a staff error, Sanders had been invited to the meeting, they were not pleased.

"He thought, 'Why even go now?' " relays an aide to one of the senators. "We knew Bernie would just start yelling and arguing."

"The senator was not happy," confirms an aide to the other. "Bernie had been publicly bad-mouthing the administration nonstop -- it would not have been a conducive environment for negotiation."

"If someone says, 'Look, Bernie, we are all getting together and we want to compromise and cut a deal, and I say, 'I don't want to compromise,' I can understand why they don't want me there."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/ ... 512751a3d/


This articles go on and on about how Sanders refuses to be nice and play nice with the his colleagues in Congress, while hating on Bush I's administration at every chance.

This from July 9th, 1991 (before Bill Clinton was elected).

http://www.haaretz.com/world-news/u-s-e ... m-1.701787

Here is the republication of Sanders interview with Haaretz (Israel media outlet), with him lashing out Israel and the Israeli government.


I think your characterization is a bit off. The above just shows Sanders being what he is, a political gadfly.

After the Clinton shift to the center, the democrats needed a gadfly. They still do.

I'm glad Sanders is still there.


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07 Jun 2016, 3:09 pm

xenocity wrote:
Again quit reading and posting conspiracy theories.


No conspiracy theories here god damn it. You spew nothing but corporate media propaganda and somehow I'm the conspiracy theorist?!? Get real...

xenocity wrote:
This primary season has had no systematic voter fraud, nor any real issues.
Though the only major issue from this primary season was Nevada State Convention, which Sanders Campaign was cited for it.


Bullsh*t, yet again. I could post the links to all the problems that have arisen this primary season on the democrat side of the race. Problem is, you won't look at any of it. Just close your eyes and ears to the whole damn thing and remain blissfully ignorant.


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07 Jun 2016, 6:09 pm

GoonSquad wrote:
xenocity wrote:
GoonSquad wrote:
xenocity wrote:
Dox47 wrote:
xenocity wrote:
We have articles from the 1990s with Bernie hating on the Democrats exclusively while being nice to the GOP.


"We"?

As in the country and people.

We is the most proper word to use in a sentence like that.


Do we have links?


Quote:
"Bernie alienates his natural allies," said Rep. Barney Frank (D-Mass.). "His holier-than-thou attitude--saying in a very loud voice he is smarter than everyone else and purer than everyone else --really undercuts his effectiveness.
http://articles.latimes.com/1991-09-08/ ... ajor-party"


That's from a September 8th 1991 interview with U.S. House members, which includes the Sanders in his first term.

Quote:
When the legislators discovered that, because of a staff error, Sanders had been invited to the meeting, they were not pleased.

"He thought, 'Why even go now?' " relays an aide to one of the senators. "We knew Bernie would just start yelling and arguing."

"The senator was not happy," confirms an aide to the other. "Bernie had been publicly bad-mouthing the administration nonstop -- it would not have been a conducive environment for negotiation."

"If someone says, 'Look, Bernie, we are all getting together and we want to compromise and cut a deal, and I say, 'I don't want to compromise,' I can understand why they don't want me there."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/ ... 512751a3d/


This articles go on and on about how Sanders refuses to be nice and play nice with the his colleagues in Congress, while hating on Bush I's administration at every chance.

This from July 9th, 1991 (before Bill Clinton was elected).

http://www.haaretz.com/world-news/u-s-e ... m-1.701787

Here is the republication of Sanders interview with Haaretz (Israel media outlet), with him lashing out Israel and the Israeli government.


I think your characterization is a bit off. The above just shows Sanders being what he is, a political gadfly.

After the Clinton shift to the center, the democrats needed a gadfly. They still do.

I'm glad Sanders is still there.

Here's the deal with the U.S., the U.S. historically votes for the candidate who appears to be the most centrist and supports the centrists.

The U.S. literally fears and hates radicals on the right and left, which is why they have failed to win elections.

Sanders at the end of last year registered to stand for reelection to the U.S. Senate for the 2018 elections in Vermont.
On the official Vermont form, he checked box for Independent not Democrat.

He is officially registered to run for reelection as an independent in 2018 in Vermont.

Once primary season formally ends, he will revert back to being a registered independent.

He literally only registered with the Democrats last year, so he could run this primary season and punish the party for "electing Obama" and "compromising with the GOP!".

Sanders is on record stating he had planned to run in 2008 to stop Obama from getting the Democratic nomination.
He in the same interview stated he hates Obama and what he did to this country and said Obama is as bad a Bush II.
He has repeatedly stated he hates Obama and what Obama stands for.

He said he only ran as Democrat this year to destroy the Democratic Party for giving us Obama.
He's repeatedly says he wants to purge the country of the Democratic Party, while refusing to talk ill of the GOP.

The point is Sanders is a person filled with very hateful ideology to the point he could be the Left's Limbaugh and Bush II wrapped into one and is not a DEMOCRAT!
It doesn't help that he betrayed his fellow Jews by not supporting Israel (he hates Israel for not listening to him).

The great irony is half the country hates Obama for being borderline communist and being the most liberal president in history who's stripping them of their freedoms.
The other half hates him for shutdown the government repeatedly by not getting Congress to pass spending bills.


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07 Jun 2016, 6:46 pm

bdogz15 wrote:
... My question is, in your opinion, do you personally think Bernie Sanders has a chance? ...
His chances are slim to none ... and Slim just rode outta town ... :wink:


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