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10 Mar 2019, 7:38 pm

I think Harry (Duke of Sussex) has suffered enough bitterness and cruelty forced on by royal and military standards never mind the heartache over losing his mother from a young age. I love what he's doing for mental health, and he is raising awareness for this. I have to say that although, I'm a silent patriot, and have my own favourites I don't think Meghan is embracing royal cortege and adopting enough fashion through the media, the cultural events we are experiencing is not being embraced and she is also saying that her son/daughter will be born a feminist, so it all points to bringing out freedom in a figurative way but lacks definition. I don't think its funny to make a joke that might seem lighthearted but at the same time, infers a question about recruiting more people to hire out a fashion parade that hasn't yet reached the catwalk.



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10 Mar 2019, 8:33 pm

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White privilege is not real, how so? Because being born white does not mean you have any privilege at all, being born in a wealthy family is what gives people privilege and wealthy families exist within all races in the US. Bill Cosby's kids were much more privileged than me, one example out of millions. What my 'white privilege' did for me is to be born in poverty with a single mom who had to work all day so I barely got to see her, raised in a very poor town, went to the worst public school in the state of georgia, which I think has the worst education standards in the US, my dad was a crack head I barely ever saw and had divorced my mom before I was born.

This is going to harsh but there are plenty of folks who have stories as bad (or worse) than your own (I am giving you the benefit of the doubt in assuming it's true as I have no way to validate it). Having a tough life doesn't invalidate the structural nature of racism as it exists today.

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10 Mar 2019, 8:41 pm

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There is such a thing as white privilege. Any of us who are white, no matter how poor, can go anywhere, anytime day or night and not get hassled by the police. People of color can't do that, even if they're rich.
To say that racism is only a reaction to liberal anti-white racism is untrue. Racism is a reaction to gains made by people of color by whites who imagine that if people who have had less now get a bigger piece of the pie, white racists will get less.


Perhaps you should listen to Larry Elder, a guy full of 'real facts' that explains why blacks appearing to be in the 'hip hop' culture are more likely to get pulled over around 'bad neighborhoods. So not, rich black people, not around bad neighborhoods and not appearing to be part of 'hip hop' culture do not get randomly pulled over by police. People, despite what race they are, appearing to be part of hip hop culture get pulled over way more often than people who don't appear to be part of hip hop culture. Why is that? Because the possibility of them carrying drugs or doing something else illegal dramatically increases, especially around bad neighborhoods. Same thing goes for whites around bad predominantly white neighborhoods where meth and heroin is abundant, same thing goes for cracked out looking whites in busted up vehicles driving around bad predominately black neighborhoods. A large percentage of blacks are in hip hop culture, have you ever heard the music? Crime is a way of life.

I have heard quite a few gangster rappers talking about the same thing, one guy said, "It ain't the white man hiding behind your bushes with an AK47 waiting for you to come outside so they can gun you down", he commented a lot about the issue with cops, even cop shootings, saying he doesn't blame them for how their community generally acts, "hip hop culture". He raised the question, why don't people ever seem to want to address the real issue, the fact that the main leading cause of death for a black male is being killed by another black male? Not all blacks live in hip hop culture nor do they all live in bad neighbor hoods, they generally do not have issues with cops. I'm white, I have been pulled over about 9 times without even breaking any laws and have been searched 7 times, mostly because I'm poor and had crappy cars.

You can find this on youtube, I think it was CNN? Lil Wayne(rapper) was a guest, they asked him what does he think of racism in the US, he say something like, "You don't want to ask me that, you ain't gonna like my answer. I have not ever experienced any racism". Yet again, there is no such thing as 'white privilege', it's simply a term used to justify racism.



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10 Mar 2019, 8:48 pm

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Crimadella wrote:
White privilege is not real, how so? Because being born white does not mean you have any privilege at all, being born in a wealthy family is what gives people privilege and wealthy families exist within all races in the US. Bill Cosby's kids were much more privileged than me, one example out of millions. What my 'white privilege' did for me is to be born in poverty with a single mom who had to work all day so I barely got to see her, raised in a very poor town, went to the worst public school in the state of georgia, which I think has the worst education standards in the US, my dad was a crack head I barely ever saw and had divorced my mom before I was born.

This is going to harsh but there are plenty of folks who have stories as bad (or worse) than your own (I am giving you the benefit of the doubt in assuming it's true as I have no way to validate it). Having a tough life doesn't invalidate the structural nature of racism as it exists today.

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Yes, I know. And sadly, parts of the left are encouraging and spreading racism on a massive scale, 42 million to 150,000. Which side really has more racists? People telling a white person his opinion doesn't count because he or she is white is racist. To prove that fact all you have to do is swap it to get through your bias. What would you call a white guy telling someone their opinion doesn't count because they are black?

I'm done talking about this, I though perhaps I could show you how your view is distorted and incorrect, I know you will probably assume the same about me, I have the factual definition of racism on my side, I know I'm right and so does the majority of the population in the US and probably the world. Anyway, I see it as disrespectful, I know that's not what you are aiming for, I'm going to leave it alone now.



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10 Mar 2019, 9:24 pm

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What would you call a white guy telling someone their opinion doesn't count because they are black?


Actually our opinions are the only ones that seem to count. There is literally no non-white representation in the media and nobody takes what a black person says about white people with any seriousness because of the power differential in society.

It's no different than when Arabs living in a random middle eastern country say "death top America" and nobody gives a toss because it's in the third world. White Americans simply replace with black americans with foreigner and transplant some third world neighbourhood as where they live/abode...



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10 Mar 2019, 10:53 pm

Liberalism needs racism. It can't really exist without it. If all the white people on earth died off and disappeared, then liberalism would shift to black or Asian or heterosexual privilege and supremacy. If everyone became multi-racial transgender pansexuals, then it would be right handed people privilege and supremacy.



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11 Mar 2019, 12:22 am

Crimadella wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
There is such a thing as white privilege. Any of us who are white, no matter how poor, can go anywhere, anytime day or night and not get hassled by the police. People of color can't do that, even if they're rich.
To say that racism is only a reaction to liberal anti-white racism is untrue. Racism is a reaction to gains made by people of color by whites who imagine that if people who have had less now get a bigger piece of the pie, white racists will get less.


Perhaps you should listen to Larry Elder, a guy full of 'real facts' that explains why blacks appearing to be in the 'hip hop' culture are more likely to get pulled over around 'bad neighborhoods. So not, rich black people, not around bad neighborhoods and not appearing to be part of 'hip hop' culture do not get randomly pulled over by police. People, despite what race they are, appearing to be part of hip hop culture get pulled over way more often than people who don't appear to be part of hip hop culture. Why is that? Because the possibility of them carrying drugs or doing something else illegal dramatically increases, especially around bad neighborhoods. Same thing goes for whites around bad predominantly white neighborhoods where meth and heroin is abundant, same thing goes for cracked out looking whites in busted up vehicles driving around bad predominately black neighborhoods. A large percentage of blacks are in hip hop culture, have you ever heard the music? Crime is a way of life.

I have heard quite a few gangster rappers talking about the same thing, one guy said, "It ain't the white man hiding behind your bushes with an AK47 waiting for you to come outside so they can gun you down", he commented a lot about the issue with cops, even cop shootings, saying he doesn't blame them for how their community generally acts, "hip hop culture". He raised the question, why don't people ever seem to want to address the real issue, the fact that the main leading cause of death for a black male is being killed by another black male? Not all blacks live in hip hop culture nor do they all live in bad neighbor hoods, they generally do not have issues with cops. I'm white, I have been pulled over about 9 times without even breaking any laws and have been searched 7 times, mostly because I'm poor and had crappy cars.

You can find this on youtube, I think it was CNN? Lil Wayne(rapper) was a guest, they asked him what does he think of racism in the US, he say something like, "You don't want to ask me that, you ain't gonna like my answer. I have not ever experienced any racism". Yet again, there is no such thing as 'white privilege', it's simply a term used to justify racism.


I always thought Larry Elder was an ass.
Plenty of blacks without Hip Hop dress get hassled by cops everyday.
Sure, poor whites are more likely to be pulled over by cops than affluent whites, but even affluent blacks are more likely to get hassled by cops than almost any whites.


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11 Mar 2019, 12:26 am

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Liberalism needs racism. It can't really exist without it. If all the white people on earth died off and disappeared, then liberalism would shift to black or Asian or heterosexual privilege and supremacy. If everyone became multi-racial transgender pansexuals, then it would be right handed people privilege and supremacy.


Silly me, and I thought liberalism had had its roots in labor rights, women's rights, extension of the social safety net for the benefit of the poor, aged, and disabled, and a world of other stuff.
Someone needs to stand up against racism, because too many in the right certainly have embraced it. If not liberals fighting bigotry, then who?


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11 Mar 2019, 12:31 am

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I think it would be awesome if we could round up all racist people of all races and put them on an island together, let them battle it out and kill eachother while the rest of us live here in harmony and mock racist island for their pure stupidity.

If you are a racist person towards any race, you are no better than a white supremacist, you are equal, you are a supremacist of whatever race you belong to.


I agree with you on that one. I think it would be a great idea.


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11 Mar 2019, 12:48 am

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EzraS wrote:
Liberalism needs racism. It can't really exist without it. If all the white people on earth died off and disappeared, then liberalism would shift to black or Asian or heterosexual privilege and supremacy. If everyone became multi-racial transgender pansexuals, then it would be right handed people privilege and supremacy.


Silly me, and I thought liberalism had had its roots in labor rights, women's rights, extension of the social safety net for the benefit of the poor, aged, and disabled, and a world of other stuff.
Someone needs to stand up against racism, because too many in the right certainly have embraced it. If not liberals fighting bigotry, then who?


That just supports what I wrote.



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11 Mar 2019, 1:30 am

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EzraS wrote:
Liberalism needs racism. It can't really exist without it. If all the white people on earth died off and disappeared, then liberalism would shift to black or Asian or heterosexual privilege and supremacy. If everyone became multi-racial transgender pansexuals, then it would be right handed people privilege and supremacy.


Silly me, and I thought liberalism had had its roots in labor rights, women's rights, extension of the social safety net for the benefit of the poor, aged, and disabled, and a world of other stuff.
Someone needs to stand up against racism, because too many in the right certainly have embraced it. If not liberals fighting bigotry, then who?


That just supports what I wrote.


Why is is opposing evil somehow wrong?


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11 Mar 2019, 1:44 am

EzraS wrote:
Liberalism needs racism. It can't really exist without it. If all the white people on earth died off and disappeared, then liberalism would shift to black or Asian or heterosexual privilege and supremacy. If everyone became multi-racial transgender pansexuals, then it would be right handed people privilege and supremacy.

If there were no white folks then the remainder of the planet would be subjects of the "middle kingdom" with Beijing (rather than Washington) as the centre of power.

You tend to forget that the right wing is not a friend of those with disability or on welfare, it doesn't quite a have ring with "rugged individualism" and self-reliance



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11 Mar 2019, 1:46 am

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Why is is opposing evil somehow wrong?


It's evil to oppose evil Kraichgauer when it's packaged as neo-liberal social conservatives sitting around boardrooms....



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Why is is opposing evil somehow wrong?


It's evil to oppose evil Kraichgauer when it's packaged as neo-liberal social conservatives sitting around boardrooms....


Of course; thanks for setting me straight! :lol: :lol: :lol:


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Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Liberalism needs racism. It can't really exist without it. If all the white people on earth died off and disappeared, then liberalism would shift to black or Asian or heterosexual privilege and supremacy. If everyone became multi-racial transgender pansexuals, then it would be right handed people privilege and supremacy.


Silly me, and I thought liberalism had had its roots in labor rights, women's rights, extension of the social safety net for the benefit of the poor, aged, and disabled, and a world of other stuff.
Someone needs to stand up against racism, because too many in the right certainly have embraced it. If not liberals fighting bigotry, then who?


That just supports what I wrote.


Why is is opposing evil somehow wrong?


The evil is simultaneously being cultivated and perpetuated in order to fight it. It's like the addage about the cure being as bad as or even worse than the illness.



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11 Mar 2019, 2:07 am

EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Liberalism needs racism. It can't really exist without it. If all the white people on earth died off and disappeared, then liberalism would shift to black or Asian or heterosexual privilege and supremacy. If everyone became multi-racial transgender pansexuals, then it would be right handed people privilege and supremacy.


Silly me, and I thought liberalism had had its roots in labor rights, women's rights, extension of the social safety net for the benefit of the poor, aged, and disabled, and a world of other stuff.
Someone needs to stand up against racism, because too many in the right certainly have embraced it. If not liberals fighting bigotry, then who?


That just supports what I wrote.


Why is is opposing evil somehow wrong?


The evil is simultaneously being cultivated and perpetuated in order to fight it. It's like the addage about the cure being as bad as or even worse than the illness.


Fighting against hating someone for being of the wrong tribe or skin color, and using social power to oppress that person, is wrong?!?!


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