Jussie Smollett found guilty of fake hate crime.

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10 Dec 2021, 2:52 am

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He should have blamed the attack on..."a small foreign faction".

That story seems to work better! :lol:

Not sure that it "works"

But I guess some people will look for anything to try and achieve relevence or feel important - Unfortunately, the only thing false assertions such as these do is to devalue the seriousness of those occasions when an event does occur.

I meant to exonerate himself. Once the White maga guy story fell apart, he might have somehow shifted the blame to..."a small foreign faction (that actually refers to itself as 'a small foreign faction')". I was making a reference to the "ransom note" "found" by Jon Benet Ramsey's mom.

My mistake.

I've become used to seeing that (and similar) terms used to attack the small groups of people from other nations (often to try and deflect attention from words\actions of the person making such an attack) on various "US-centric"\majority US sites, so thought you were referring to that sort of bigoted behaviour.

In terms of Mr Smollett blaming the attack on "a small foreign faction", it would appear to have been accurate, given the brothers who assisted him in this hoax are Nigerian.

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10 Dec 2021, 3:12 am

Not really.

They were a "small band of foreign mercenaries that I myself hired" would be him describing them honestly. They werent a political "faction", and their ringleader was an American...Smollett himself.

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10 Dec 2021, 3:46 am

So fascinating watching the market at work when the demand for hate crimes outpaces the supply.

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10 Dec 2021, 4:52 am

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So fascinating watching the market at work when the demand for hate crimes outpaces the supply.

It was interesting hearing Nate Broady, in a video I posted earlier, speaking about hate crimes in New York and the fact that the majority of them consist of "African Americans" attacking "Asian" people...

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10 Dec 2021, 5:08 am

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Or, it could be viewed as Mr Smollett conspiring with the Nigerians to influence ongoing negotiations (It was suggested that the event was staged in order to help him negotiate better wages on the television show he was an actor on).

As a side note, it was interesting to hear that Mr Smollett took offence during the trial to one of the prosecutors reading some text messages, which had been sent by Mr Smollett and which contained the "n" word, to the jury, verbatim - Instead of the prosecutor using the phrase "n word" in the place of that word, the prosecutor instead asked Mr Smollett to read the texts aloud himself.

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10 Dec 2021, 5:27 am

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you're just repeating what I just said. That Smollet hired immigrants as mercenaries. They werent a foreign band of terrorists.

Gawd...I crack a joke that kinda agrees with you...that these Maga guys were imaginary...just as imaginary as the terrorist "faction" that "kidnapped" Jon Binet. And even when I agree with you...you pick a fight! Lol!

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10 Dec 2021, 6:49 am

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you're just repeating what I just said. That Smollet hired immigrants as mercenaries. They werent a foreign band of terrorists.

I know what you were referring to: I was just linking\associating what occurred in this case with another recent hoax over there - Claims of conspiracy\collusion between an individual and citizens of another country (Russia, in that case).

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10 Dec 2021, 7:20 am

Interesting hearing from the special prosecutor in this case shortly after the verdict was delivered.

It was surprising, but also heartening, to hear that the special prosecutor (and his team) did their work at no cost to the city (outside a potentially small amount for out of pocket expences) - I seem to recall at the time that they were appointed that there were stories in the media about how this process would be a waste of the city's money.

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10 Dec 2021, 4:55 pm

Quote:

Josh Jordan
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Jussie Smollett is a perfect example of why you don't always have to rush out with hot takes when a story seems off.

That Twitter 24 hour rule (or longer) should be the gold standard with stories like this because otherwise you look really silly. #JussieSmollett

https://twitter.com/NumbersMuncher/stat ... 20704?s=20

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10 Dec 2021, 8:16 pm

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So fascinating watching the market at work when the demand for hate crimes outpaces the supply.

Where exactly do you think the outrage came from? imagination? Smollet may be dumb but he was tapping into responses to 400 years of hate crimes.

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11 Dec 2021, 1:08 am

Are you saying that he should have faked getting beat up just to prove a point or send a message?

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11 Dec 2021, 2:05 am

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11 Dec 2021, 3:32 am

The question is, did they now about the outrageous details at the time of postings.

Like being out of the cold at three in morning, being randomly spotted and recognized, and the cheesy lines.

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11 Dec 2021, 4:23 am

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Are you saying that he should have faked getting beat up just to prove a point or send a message?

No the initial response was quite vocal because America has a 400 year track record of hate crimes against both black people and gay people, It's no accident.

Smollet's decision was dumb, and he's clearly not a good actor either as his performance when interviewed by Gayle King was pretty awful. But Dox trying to associate Smollet's attempt to draw attention to himself with some fictitious demand for hate crimes from the left is scraping the bottom of the barrel.

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11 Dec 2021, 4:43 am

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The question is, did they now about the outrageous details at the time of postings.

Like being out of the cold at three in morning, being randomly spotted and recognized, and the cheesy lines.

The problem isn't so much their hasty responces (I'd be surprised if there wasn't anyone who hadn't jumped to a conclusion based on early reporting\minimal information at some stage of their life), but rather how they react as\when information which contradicted this (up to and following the recent trial) became public - Did they double-down on their commentary\hope what they said would be forgotten\publicly revise their opinions on what occurred\appologise for their errors in what they had publicly stated\etc. given the audiences they had\number of people potentially influenced by what they say.

Simple information such as the temperature were known (or should have been) at the time, with information which would contradict the initial reporting being known within days (from memory).

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11 Dec 2021, 4:58 am

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Smollet's decision was dumb, and he's clearly not a good actor either as his performance when interviewed by Gayle King was pretty awful. But Dox trying to associate Smollet's attempt to draw attention to himself with some fictitious demand for hate crimes from the left is scraping the bottom of the barrel.

Huh, I don't remember mentioning the left at all in my one line comment, funny that you heard it so clearly though.

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