New Interstellar Object Could be Alien

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15 Sep 2025, 3:31 am

NASA have the option to point telescopes and cameras at Atlas 31 on Sept 25 (10 days away) as it passes Mars. we might be able to get collect more data on it's properties.



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16 Sep 2025, 3:39 am

kokopelli wrote:
cyberdora wrote:
Atlas 31 Definitely not a comet (no tail), it's glowing halo in front so may have it's own energy source
It's speed indicates it's accelerating
It's trajectory is taking it into orbit of Jupiter, Mars and the Sun

Really really odd, looking like it's under intelligent control


You worry way, way, way too much.

That far out, there has been absolutely no reason to expect to see a tail since there is little solar wind to form a tail. That said, it is now close enough to start forming a tail and that is just what it is doing.

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From https://www.sciencealert.com/images-show-interstellar-object-3i-atlas-is-now-growing-a-tail:
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There's no atmospheric drag in space, since it's effectively a vacuum environment. Tails only emerge from a coma when the comet is close enough to the star for radiation pressure to push the gas and dust outwards. This is why cometary tails are always pointed away from the star.


It is infinitely more probable that it's a comet rather than some alien craft, even it has no tail.

The fermi paradox is real.



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16 Sep 2025, 5:24 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
It is infinitely more probable that it's a comet rather than some alien craft, even it has no tail.

The fermi paradox is real.
Exactly.



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16 Sep 2025, 5:00 pm

the fermi paradox is akin to a blind cave slug living underground telling another blind cave slug that nothing exists above their cave because they haven't seen it.

I know how scientists think, (I've worked with them for years). they will ridicule and gaslight open minded investigators as charlatans and frauds but when evidence suddenly stares them in the face they will pivot and say "we knew all along! we were just being cautious, now move aside and leave the investigations to us as we are real scientists not pseudoscientists"



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16 Sep 2025, 8:20 pm

cyberdora wrote:
the fermi paradox is akin to a blind cave slug living underground telling another blind cave slug that nothing exists above their cave because they haven't seen it.

I know how scientists think, (I've worked with them for years). they will ridicule and gaslight open minded investigators as charlatans and frauds but when evidence suddenly stares them in the face they will pivot and say "we knew all along! we were just being cautious, now move aside and leave the investigations to us as we are real scientists not pseudoscientists"


You want magic and aren't going to get it.



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17 Sep 2025, 4:41 am

Ultimately we shall see. I've personally witnessed objects doing things that defy the laws of physics as far back as the 1970s. My grandfather and great aunt (who were staunch Christians and were sticklers for honesty) both claim to have regularly seen orbs of various sizes in the Australian bush as far back as 1914 which is barely a decade after Orville and wright lashed some Spruce wood together and got it to fly at Kittyhawk.

I know these things exist but happy for you to call them swamp gas or a product of an overactive imagination. Doesn't change what I (and probably 100s of thousands of others) have witnessed.



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20 Sep 2025, 5:47 am

Sorry but 3I Atlas keeps getting weirder. Now 7 comets are following 3I Atlas to the sun



People pretend there's nothing to worry about, but why does this feel like doomsday?



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20 Sep 2025, 9:55 pm

Now 3I Atlas is getting brighter > normal comet



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21 Sep 2025, 8:49 pm

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Now 3I Atlas is getting brighter > normal comet

Is it time to hide in the basement?



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22 Sep 2025, 3:30 am

technically if one of these multiple comets smash into Jupiter, Mars or the sun (put aside the earth), I'm not sure your basement is going to delay the inevitable by much. Might enjoy several cans of tuna and beans before...well you know.

And if one does hit earth...well cheerio everyone, nice knowing you all.



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22 Sep 2025, 12:25 pm

cyberdora wrote:
technically if one of these multiple comets smash into Jupiter, Mars or the sun (put aside the earth), I'm not sure your basement is going to delay the inevitable by much. Might enjoy several cans of tuna and beans before...well you know.

And if one does hit earth...well cheerio everyone, nice knowing you all.



A comet hitting Jupiter, Mars, or the Sun would be noticed because of telescopes. Other than that, they would have no effect on us.

You do know, don't you, that a comet did strike Jupiter in 1994:

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If a comet hits the Earth, we will certainly notice. Unless it is quite large, it would be unlikely to wipe out life on Earth.



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22 Sep 2025, 4:49 pm

^^^ Yeah I remember that. Again these ones (particularly I31 Atlas) are much bigger so could cause something untoward in Jupiter's or Mar's orbit. truth is there's not much we can do anyway. May as well be giant Y2K bugs. Nobody pays heed. People are more preoccupied with the football or the Kardashians > impending unknown interstellar objects.

Keep in mind the forward tail (light being emitted in front of the object) if not artificial is defying our understanding of the laws of physics. Otherwise it looks like car headlights.

I31 Atlas is still scoring a 4/10 on the Loeb scale. Once the first Mars pictures come through we will know more.



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22 Sep 2025, 5:58 pm

It would not be an inelastic collision. Even if it were, the orbital effects would be vanishingly small.



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23 Sep 2025, 2:07 am

^^^ I hope so...