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22 Sep 2025, 5:02 pm

Candace Owens sounds completely unhinged and paranoid about Bibi taking her out. Carlson is as usual pushing his usual antisemitic conspiracies. Marjorie is the darling of the far right who always go on about "Jews running the world through cabals".

turning point is just a social media movement brainwashing vulnerable young people into budding MAGAs.

77 million Americans appear to be infected with a mind virus which is far more toxic > COVID19



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22 Sep 2025, 7:27 pm

cyberdora wrote:
Candace Owens sounds completely unhinged and paranoid about Bibi taking her out. Carlson is as usual pushing his usual antisemitic conspiracies. Marjorie is the darling of the far right who always go on about "Jews running the world through cabals".

turning point is just a social media movement brainwashing vulnerable young people into budding MAGAs.

77 million Americans appear to be infected with a mind virus which is far more toxic > COVID19


A while back, Carlson had a Holocaust denier on his show, who called Winston Churchill the most evil man alive during WWII.


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22 Sep 2025, 8:59 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:

who called Winston Churchill the most evil man alive during WWII.


Actually a lot of people in India would agree with that statement. He was a real racist piece of s**t to their people. Just ask any of them.



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22 Sep 2025, 11:05 pm

MisterAnthrope13 wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:

who called Winston Churchill the most evil man alive during WWII.


Actually a lot of people in India would agree with that statement. He was a real racist piece of s**t to their people. Just ask any of them.


That is definitely true. Churchill was hardly the angel who popular history portrays him as. Still, I doubt Carlson's guest who made that statement had that in mind when attacking Churchill. Rather, he was making Hitler out to be the misunderstood world leader, compared to the monster Churchill who somehow manipulated the Nazis into war.


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23 Sep 2025, 1:00 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
MisterAnthrope13 wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:

who called Winston Churchill the most evil man alive during WWII.


Actually a lot of people in India would agree with that statement. He was a real racist piece of s**t to their people. Just ask any of them.


That is definitely true. Churchill was hardly the angel who popular history portrays him as. Still, I doubt Carlson's guest who made that statement had that in mind when attacking Churchill. Rather, he was making Hitler out to be the misunderstood world leader, compared to the monster Churchill who somehow manipulated the Nazis into war.


The more I read about the 'heroes' of WW2 like Churchill and McArthur the more I realize they were all monsters too. But as they say, history is written by the victors so they get painted out to be these noble heroes that they never really were.

But that said I agree that anybody who tries to make Hitler out to be a misunderstood great leader should raise serious red flags for all.

Just like the tankies who are idealizing Mao, Castro, and Stalin all of a sudden. It's deeply disturbing when people deliberately try to rationalize and put history's greatest monsters on a pedestal. :?



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23 Sep 2025, 1:48 am

^^^ would be fair to say all of the above have an evil side. I kind of acknowledge Churchill was largely a product of his time but the famine in Bengal costing 3.8 million lives and are a direct result of wartime rationing to feed the British army. then you had Henry Kissinger who facilitated genocide in Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Timor and Bangladesh costing millions of lives. the British army also killed a million Chinese civilians in anti-communist uprisings in Indonesia and Malaya.

But if there was a leaderboard for killing the most people in the shortest time then top 5
Hitler
Genghis Khan
Hirohito
Stalin
Mao tse tung



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23 Sep 2025, 1:52 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
A while back, Carlson had a Holocaust denier on his show, who called Winston Churchill the most evil man alive during WWII.

well that's saying something.



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23 Sep 2025, 2:00 am

Mranthrope13 -
Stalin and Mao were absolutely no better than Hitler. Anyone who thinks they weren't are purposely ignorant of history.


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23 Sep 2025, 2:05 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
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Stalin and Mao were absolutely no better than Hitler. Anyone who thinks they weren't are purposely ignorant of history.


Genghis and Hirohito might have something to say them all about which of them were worst, down in hell.



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23 Sep 2025, 3:56 am

cyberdora wrote:
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Stalin and Mao were absolutely no better than Hitler. Anyone who thinks they weren't are purposely ignorant of history.


Genghis and Hirohito might have something to say them all about which of them were worst, down in hell.


Absolutely true. Throw in Julius Caesar, whose Roman invasion of Gaul amounted to Genocide, with millions of Celts either killed or enslaved.


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23 Sep 2025, 6:19 am

Yes Caesar was brutal as was Persian emperor Cyrus and who could forget Ashurbanipal of Assyria and Ashoka the first emperor of India.