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04 Oct 2007, 12:20 am

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Both children suffer from medical conditions, including celiac disease, that prohibits them from consuming food products that contain gluten and casein, a protein found in milk, according to a release. The suit also says symptoms of autism were aggravated by the ingredients. view article


the original post (and article)says they do!


Yes but we're fighting about the claim that the gluten made them more autistic.



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04 Oct 2007, 12:24 am

I agree that is it stupid to say that gluten made them more autistic,

but I also say that McDonald's is guilty of not disclosing full information about their product.

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04 Oct 2007, 12:34 am

jaleb wrote:
I agree that is it stupid to say that gluten made them more autistic,

but I also say that McDonald's is guilty of not disclosing full information about their product.

truce?


I'd rather we continue arguing about this.



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04 Oct 2007, 2:10 am

The topic was this case - not the coffee one - and in the first post about this case it was written that the children had celiac disease. Even if there is no link between gluten and autism, there is one with celiac disease.

French fries are supposed to be made of potatoes, fried in oil or fat. Their foot info says it's free of gluten. If you take your kid to McDonalds - as it no doubt wants that so badly - and their information says their fries are glutenfree, it would be perfectly reasonable to expect their French fries to be glutenfree.

Edit: A final note, the article said that the law suit claims their autism symptoms aggravated. I imagine that the bowel inflammation - and it's possibly discomforting symptoms or it's effect on digestion - might indeed aggravate some of their 'autistic symptoms'.



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04 Oct 2007, 7:12 am

Zwerfbeertje wrote:
The topic was this case - not the coffee one - and in the first post about this case it was written that the children had celiac disease. Even if there is no link between gluten and autism, there is one with celiac disease.

French fries are supposed to be made of potatoes, fried in oil or fat. Their foot info says it's free of gluten. If you take your kid to McDonalds - as it no doubt wants that so badly - and their information says their fries are glutenfree, it would be perfectly reasonable to expect their French fries to be glutenfree.

Edit: A final note, the article said that the law suit claims their autism symptoms aggravated. I imagine that the bowel inflammation - and it's possibly discomforting symptoms or it's effect on digestion - might indeed aggravate some of their 'autistic symptoms'.


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04 Oct 2007, 9:12 am

Well, I guess that's the question. Did they claim "gluten-free/casein-free" or did they just omit the wheat and milk ingredients. Like I said before, it's really difficult to claim GF/CF. In the case of these 2 products, the ingredient is part of a flavoring. What should be in french fries and hash browns is up to debate
The ingredients now include the beef flavoring and state that they contain wheat and milk.



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04 Oct 2007, 9:20 pm

Check out this link for the ingredients in McDonalds French Fries:
http://www.mcdonalds.com/app_controller ... dex.html#1

I'm sure that McDonalds updated this after this suit. But I'm also sure the customers didn't look it up prior to them having this problem. They assumed it was potatoes and didn't have anything else. That is a bad assumption for resturant food. We'll never know.

Basically if you have digestive issues. Don't eat at a restaurant. It's bad for the general public. Imagine what happens to people with existing problems.

People know this. If they don't they have been living in a cave for the last 20 years. It's their choice.


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04 Oct 2007, 11:17 pm

The suit claims that prior to February 2006 McDonald's said its French fries and hash browns were "gluten free" and contained no wheat. The company also failed to list wheat or milk as ingredients in those products, the suit says. Currently, McDonald's ingredient list for fries states: "contains no wheat or milk."



this is from the article, take it as you wish.


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05 Oct 2007, 12:22 am

jaleb, I checked the site this morning. It says in big, giant letters that it does contain wheat and milk. The "beef flavoring" is listed and after the list, there is that note that says contains wheat and milk.

This is immaterial to the case, they are claiming the information was different in 2006. I would have no idea.

I remember a few years back Mickey D's got in big trouble in India because of that beef flavoring. It wasn't vegan (of course) and so these Hindu were mad because they didn't disclose that.



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05 Oct 2007, 5:34 am

well, if they specifically state gluten and casein free, then they have a case against Mcdonalds. You would not expect potatoes to contain bread or milk proteins.
SOME people though have a tendency to sue for things that should be common sense--- "What do you mean this BREAD has GLUTEN???", all because the bread didn't specifically mention that it contained bread stuff in it... those are the people that piss me off.



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05 Oct 2007, 7:41 am

KimJ wrote:
jaleb, I checked the site this morning. It says in big, giant letters that it does contain wheat and milk. The "beef flavoring" is listed and after the list, there is that note that says contains wheat and milk.

This is immaterial to the case, they are claiming the information was different in 2006. I would have no idea.

I remember a few years back Mickey D's got in big trouble in India because of that beef flavoring. It wasn't vegan (of course) and so these Hindu were mad because they didn't disclose that.


yes, I checked that out too, I think they have since updated it. It will be interesting how this one turns out.


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05 Oct 2007, 10:10 am

Most amusing warning label ever:

Tesco brand peanuts

Warning: May contain peanuts.

Or perhaps.. on a carton of eggs, easily identifiable by anyone as eggs, being egg shaped as they are:

Contains Eggs.

If Macdonalds have claimed that food is one thing, when it is in fact another, then they are at fault. If any establishment does that, its ilegal. Trade Descriptions act and all that. I wouldnt have thought, however, that Macdonalds is the wisest choice to feed autistic kids (or in fact any kids). Its not exactly the healthiest option.


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05 Oct 2007, 5:39 pm

Wheat and milk with natural beef flavoring... Sounds like gravy. Powdered of course.



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05 Oct 2007, 11:11 pm

Seems to me allergies are trial and error. You don't know you have one until you negatively react to something. I'm more worried about the unsanitary conditions of food warehouses then I am at the actual food products.

To a certain point it appears to me that every human being is intolerant to milk products. Don't they affect dopamine levels in the brain or something?

I think this law suit is ridiculous. There is no way to prove that the kids behavior was a direct result of one meal at mcdonalds that contained gluten and milk products. It's just the parents assumption that A causes B.

Fear drives people to crazy answers.



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06 Oct 2007, 12:42 am

It is stupid. All they had to do was go to McDonald's website, or ask for a nutrition information packet. It has all the allergens in their food, listed there.


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06 Oct 2007, 5:43 pm

jaleb wrote:
technically McDonald's is at fault for this one because they claim their fries and hashbrowns to be gluten and casein free. Therefore, the consumer was under the impression that the food in question was safe for them to eat when in fact it was not.


I have to agree with you on this one. gluten and dairy products are major allergens, and people can get seriously sick if they don't know what is in their food. I vomit pretty horridly if I have just a little bit of dairy, and my sister is allergic to all wheat and gluten products, and has to read the labels of everything.


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