Woman aborts child to save the environment

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I have no desire to have children so I never will. But it will never involve an abortion because I've always been extremely responsible. But I'm pro-choice because the world is horribly over-populated. My genes definitely don't need to be passed on and I would be a terrible parent to a child. Although I'm a wonderful parent to my dogs.

This is one of my reasons for not wanting children. Dogs are much easier to take care of and deal with.

I would agree with the overpopulation argument, humans have been terrible in keeping parts of the planet to the animals (nature reserves, pffft!). We complain about rabbits taking over fields. Well look at it from the rabbit's perspective and we get the same argument: "Oh hell, ANOTHER field owned by a human! Why can't they leave some bits of the Earth for ourselves?!"

I read that for every fertile woman in the US, 2.3 children on average would need to be born to sustain the population. Since 1971 when abortion was legalized this number has dropped to 1.8 for all races. Hispanic populations are rising mostly due to immigration. Yes, the population is getting larger still. But that is because the baby-boomer generation is living longer than previous generations. When the boomers start dying off in about 20 years the population in the US will decrease. But the job market will be great and I'll be retiring.

World-wide, there are too many people; each individual in the US (and other western countries, to a lesser degree) uses many times their proportionate share of the world's resources, so women in the west limiting their birth rate has a stronger beneficial effect overall than women in poor areas limiting their birth rate.

That said, women in poor countries should be given access to birth control, too; the more kids a family has, the harder it is for them to drag themselves out of poverty.

The current population? Why do we need to sustain the current population? ( not that I think you're suggesting such.. seeing as how you have your retirement plans and all! )




I seem to recall that part of the reason people have multiple children in poor countries is to increase the possibility of having at least one survive.
That and religious beliefs about going forth and bearing fruit or whatever... it's late and I cannot remember the bible quote Christians use as a reason against birth control, for having large families, etc.

I fully agree with this.



On the other hand, people that are relatively well off can adequately support a large family, while Third World poor cannot. Frankly it makes me angry when poor people have large families - the fact that often these are people that do have access to birth control and know what it is convinces me that humanity's intelligence will decrease and decrease - future humans won't be multi-brained starmen, they'll be immature, stupid, easily manipulated, sheep-like people with no capacity for foresight.

Who knows - the child might have been a genius who came up with a brilliant idea that could have saved the planet and humanity from themselves.

Just hypothesising ... but I guess it's no worse logic than aborting one baby to save the planet

Hmm. Future humans you say? My society is full of sheep-humans already.

Well, even more so, i should've said.

How is getting pregnant and having an abortion save the environment? Just don't get pregnant. Period.


EDIT: Read the article and saw she only got pregnant once and got sterilized at the same time when she had her abortion. She is a strange woman.

Last edited by Spokane_Girl on 27 Nov 2007, 8:13 pm, edited 1 time in total.

But babies keep being born and they grow up and have babies themselves so no.

I don't believe that getting rid of a baby will save the environment.

For that matter, I don't believe that the ozone layer is being depleted because of cows farting.

Tim

This is only valid in the US. Not the remainder of the World. I assume many of the Western nations are similar but I do not know those statistics.

If a country has a high child death rate, the ratio would need to be higher to sustain the population. ie some African Nations

Sustain means to maintain the current count. If 1.8 were maintained the population would eventually disappear.

China and India have high birth rates and longevity. Those populations are skyrocketing and will continue for at least a century before the population decreases even if the birth rate was drastically lowered now. They have a young population still having children.

Blame the medical professionals for making people live longer. We need a good plague to wipe out half the population. Or maybe another World War. Most of the Nations are in debt and continue to pump money into social programs again helping people to live longer. Eventually they will not be able to pay those debts and the world will go into a phenomenal depression. Starvation will kill off many. War will kill off many more.

if u think that aborting your kid will save the enviroment u should not have kids. do something like plant trees or recycle.
she should not have gotten pregnant in the first place. doesn't seem like she was entirely sane. just bonkers to me to do something like that.

I have seen people complain about how a little baby isn't going to do that much damage to the environment, and how much damage can one kid do, but think about this in a larger perspective. One kid drives a car 10,000 miles a year from age 18 on, they have a bunch of kids of their own, who also drive cars, you buy a house, go to McDonald's, everything. The carbon footprint of one human is ridiculous. That and frankly, although not simply for environmental reasons, more of I know what being me is like and wouldn't want to make a kid deal with that reasons, am removing myself from the gene pool as well, no kids for me.
I personally think that about 90% of the kids on teh planet are not going to amount to anything but be wastes of space s why should we continue to be spitting them out, have kids if you have genetics that are worth passing on, not just because your a Southern Baptist and don't know any better.