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04 Aug 2008, 12:02 am

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Why beheading though? What is it about the act?

I know the barbarians used to do it a lot, cut off one's enemies head and stick it on a pole for all the village to see...and it was big in the 'dark ages'. What is the significance or appeal of removing a head from a body?


Have you seen the new Rambo movie? The Military Junta in Myanmar leaves people's heads on poles after destroying a village as a warning to insurgents.



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04 Aug 2008, 12:09 am

I heard about this. It's a sad case.

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The cop should get into trouble too. He should have done better than to let the guy take off like that. Now there are several more victims to the guys list because the cop didn't take the suspect down properly.


That is pretty much nonsense, and I hope you don't actually believe what you just said. "Tak[ing] the suspect down" is more complicated that you apparently think it is. He was slashed in the face with a knife and had a head hurled into his car.

If you truly think that he should be punished, I truly think that you should be put in the exact same situation so that we can see how you react.

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PS - Animals are important, but they are never more important than people.


I disagree. Life is equally important. Humans have this tendency to think that they're superior, but that's just egotistical.

Postperson - I would guess that heads are one of the most identifiable parts of the body. To remove the head is, in essence, to remove the identity of the victim. In the case of carrying the head around, it's pretty much parading what you have done and what you have taken from the victim, without the inconvenience of a heavy body to drag around.


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04 Aug 2008, 12:14 am

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Dox47 wrote:
n4mwd wrote:
The cop should get into trouble too. He should have done better than to let the guy take off like that. Now there are several more victims to the guys list because the cop didn't take the suspect down properly.


sh** happens...


now there is the reaction I was looking for! Finally! I had a hunch that all that vigilante ideology was just a gamble on what the odds might be if someone had a gun on the bus and could stop the killing there with an educated shot with split second understanding of ricochet in the bus's interior. All this brouhaha about how trained people should be allowed to carry guns and stop people from murdering other folks is just because some people have a compulsion to take control of a situation and if the gamble looses. . well then, sh** happens!


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Haahaha, I guess sh** happens means not my problem, its a typical gun nut response, who can't accept that people with gun's can f**k up :lol:



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04 Aug 2008, 6:28 am

Yes, that's exactly what it is. Thank you for articulating that thought for me. :D



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04 Aug 2008, 6:30 am

sinsboldly wrote:
Dox47 wrote:
n4mwd wrote:
The cop should get into trouble too. He should have done better than to let the guy take off like that. Now there are several more victims to the guys list because the cop didn't take the suspect down properly.


sh** happens...


now there is the reaction I was looking for! Finally! I had a hunch that all that vigilante ideology was just a gamble on what the odds might be if someone had a gun on the bus and could stop the killing there with an educated shot with split second understanding of ricochet in the bus's interior. All this brouhaha about how trained people should be allowed to carry guns and stop people from murdering other folks is just because some people have a compulsion to take control of a situation and if the gamble looses. . well then, sh** happens!


Merle


You're reading WAY to much into my post. In this case we are talking about a cop, not an armed civilian. Someone said that the cop should be punished because he let someone get away who ended up hurting more people. Personally, were I that cop and I saw someone coming towards me with a knife and a severed head, cuffing him would not have been my first instinct. But to hold the cop responsible because he chose not to use deadly force, well I'm not the one going against my principals there... :roll:


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04 Aug 2008, 6:37 am

What a sexy man you are, holding that gun. Like Pierce Brosnan in Mrs. Doubtfire.



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04 Aug 2008, 6:37 am

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Haahaha, I guess sh** happens means not my problem, its a typical gun nut response, who can't accept that people with gun's can f**k up :lol:


Show me where I said that the gun is infallible. I've never said that having a gun guarantees anything, in fact I've said quite the opposite several times. A gun simply gives you options that you otherwise would not have, the decision whether or not to use those options, and how to use them rests solely on the operator. In this case, I would guess that the local police were not particularly well trained, nor were they prepared to deal with this sort of crime.

BTW, if you keep calling me a gun nut (so unoriginal) I'm going to have to come up with a far more clever nickname for you, and I can just about guarantee you're not going to like it...

Also, next time Slowmutant offers you Koolaid, I wouldn't drink it...


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04 Aug 2008, 6:38 am

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What a sexy man you are, holding that gun. Like Pierce Brosnan in Mrs. Doubtfire.


Get your film references straight, I was dressed as Sonny Crockett for a Halloween party.
Ignorant Canucks...


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04 Aug 2008, 6:41 am

Sorry, I must have been thinking of Patrick Swayze in Die Hard.



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04 Aug 2008, 7:39 am

I thought it was an Elvis tribute.



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04 Aug 2008, 9:02 am

Heads can roll topic

I do not know if the number of murders is increasing, or the nature of these slayings is becoming more gruesome...

I do know, however, that we are reading about these tragedies faster, what with the speed of news transmissions, in part due to camera phones, internet and sensationalism. Sticking a head on a pole will just not do anymore. We have to put it on the internet, so now we are more aware of just how evil people are. Violent porn, executions, animal torture, Lulzing--these all find an eager audience on the computer networks of the world. Perpetrators find instant fame, albeit ghoulish. :?

I think as long as there is a desire for this very real, though virtual experience of evil, there will be a ready market for it. And for this reason, there may be more copy murders, like this Greek tragedy eerily mirroring the Greyhound bus beheading. :evil: :( 8O


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