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24 Jan 2009, 6:55 pm

it's been going on for centuries, that's what they used to do in european countries too.



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24 Jan 2009, 6:59 pm

i heard about parents breaking their childrens arms and legs or causing infections and gaping wounds for profit but kidnap and amputation? it just goes to show that evil is evolving.


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24 Jan 2009, 7:05 pm

Evil evolves along with everything else, but there will alwas be those who fight it.



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25 Jan 2009, 1:46 am

slowmutant wrote:
Evil evolves along with everything else, but there will alwas be those who fight it.



but, but, but. . .didn't someone say. . .

You've been taught an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth, but I say don’t resist evil.
If someone hits you, let him hit you twice.
If someone sues you in court to get your coat, give it to him and your cloak, too.
If someone forces you to go one mile, go two.
If someone asks you for something, give it to him. If he wants to borrow money, don't turn your back.

isn't that supposed to be the prefered way to deal with evil?

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25 Jan 2009, 5:29 am

No.

Fighting evil isn't always about physical, literal fighting. Evil comes from the Enemy, who works tirelessly to corrupt & destroy the human race. Resisting that evil need not involve literal warfare.

Ever hear of a Christian soldier? :wink:



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25 Jan 2009, 7:56 am

sinsboldly wrote:
slowmutant wrote:
Evil evolves along with everything else, but there will alwas be those who fight it.



but, but, but. . .didn't someone say. . .

You've been taught an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth, but I say don’t resist evil.
If someone hits you, let him hit you twice.
If someone sues you in court to get your coat, give it to him and your cloak, too.
If someone forces you to go one mile, go two.
If someone asks you for something, give it to him. If he wants to borrow money, don't turn your back.

isn't that supposed to be the prefered way to deal with evil?

Merle


i'm guessing whoever said this held no care about the world, the thought of heaven often condemns the innocent.


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25 Jan 2009, 10:16 am

If the poor will always be with us... topic

Then articles like the one Tally_Man opened is a wake up call for those "Save the Children", "Christian Children Foundation" and "Foster Parents Plan" poverty activist organizations.

But to act locally and to think globally las Sinsboldly and Slow_Mutant state is a great start for individuals.


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25 Jan 2009, 11:39 am

I'm going to have nightmares =\



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25 Jan 2009, 11:51 am

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Mafia gangs are deliberately crippling children for profit. This is the most shocking and sick story I've come across in a long while.

Wealth and status are more highly valued that human life.

:shrug:

Whaddaya gonna do, when even in America, inner-city parents teach their kids to "act out" and "dumb down" in order to take advantage of government-funded social programs?


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25 Jan 2009, 12:38 pm

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No.

Fighting evil isn't always about physical, literal fighting. Evil comes from the Enemy, who works tirelessly to corrupt & destroy the human race. Resisting that evil need not involve literal warfare.

Ever hear of a Christian soldier? :wink:


evidently that came after Jesus. Remember Jesus? There was a religion built around his teachings, once.


Matt 5:38 Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:

Matt 5:39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.

Matt 5:40 And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have [thy] cloak also.

Matt 5:41 And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.

Matt 5:42 Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.


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25 Jan 2009, 12:39 pm

familiar_stranger wrote:
sinsboldly wrote:
slowmutant wrote:
Evil evolves along with everything else, but there will alwas be those who fight it.



but, but, but. . .didn't someone say. . .

You've been taught an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth, but I say don’t resist evil.
If someone hits you, let him hit you twice.
If someone sues you in court to get your coat, give it to him and your cloak, too.
If someone forces you to go one mile, go two.
If someone asks you for something, give it to him. If he wants to borrow money, don't turn your back.

isn't that supposed to be the prefered way to deal with evil?

Merle


i'm guessing whoever said this held no care about the world, the thought of heaven often condemns the innocent.


It was supposedly Jesus.

Luke 6:29 And unto him that smiteth thee on the [one] cheek offer also the other; and him that taketh away thy cloak forbid not [to take thy] coat also.

Luke 6:30 Give to every man that asketh of thee; and of him that taketh away thy goods ask [them] not again.


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25 Jan 2009, 12:55 pm

at my first school the headmaster proclaimed the whole 'turn your cheek' speech and i thought it was a terrible lesson to teach children, in other words if someone's beating you ask for more?

sure, let the innocent suffer and at the same time let the villains do whatever they like. i guess i'm simply not christian enough to understand it :roll:


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25 Jan 2009, 1:08 pm

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at my first school the headmaster proclaimed the whole 'turn your cheek' speech and i thought it was a terrible lesson to teach children, in other words if someone's beating you ask for more?

sure, let the innocent suffer and at the same time let the villains do whatever they like. i guess i'm simply not christian enough to understand it :roll:


I, too, have reservations about a belief system where the members are likened to 'sheep' fit only to be herded by a 'Shepherd.'

but I suppose that was comforting to folks back in that time period. It was never all that appealing to me.

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25 Jan 2009, 7:38 pm

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evidently that came after Jesus. Remember Jesus? There was a religion built around his teachings, once.


No s**t? :roll:

BTW you're gonna have to more than quote the Bible to impress me. Anyone can quote the Bible, especially now that it's available online.



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evidently that came after Jesus. Remember Jesus? There was a religion built around his teachings, once.


No sh**? :roll:

BTW you're gonna have to more than quote the Bible to impress me. Anyone can quote the Bible, especially now that it's available online.


oh, well, silly me. I thought Christians followed Jesus.

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25 Jan 2009, 8:43 pm

Christians do follow Jesus, although some are more sincere than others.