Terrorists are on the rampage in Paris
No kidding. What do these people think they are accomplishing with all this killing?
Nothing. Only death.
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On tv they are blaming the Muslims (ISIS).
ISIS probably was behind it or had a heavy hand in it.
But not all who took part were muslims and foreigners.
You can lash out and aid terrorist without supporting their core beliefs.
Do you have any evidence that there were non-Muslims involved?
This cannot be a coincidence, usually this is a sign of old religious-based social and political divisions.
The latest Lebanese Civil War wasn't really about religion but between certain political parties, yet each party was mainly formed of members of a specific sect; again, this kind of divisions are rooted from old religious tensions.
What absolute NONSENSE. The Tamils were Hindu, the Sinhalese were Buddhists, so this was a Hindu - Buddhist conflict. Do you know how long Hinduism and Buddhism have co-existed PEACEFULLY in the subcontinent ? 2500 years ! Even IF you want to give a religious twist where none exists, 20 years out of 2500 years is still a conflict that lasted for only about 0.8% of the time they have lived together, side-by-side.
"Most of the Sinhalese and 80% of the Tamils" -- what is the source of your numbers ? Over the years, the leaders of the conflict have also tended to share religion - Christianity, for instance. And the Hindu LTTE murdered the Hindu Rajiv Gandhi.
But, I can tell you that it had NOTHING to do with religion, but of course in your attempt to pull a strawman, you can say whatever you want. That doesn't make it true, but you are entitled to your opinion.
If your aim is to show that every religion has had a problem with every other religion, then too bad, so sad, it's not working. Islam is the ONE religion that seems to have universal problems with everyone else. And this is has been the case since it was founded in the 7th century.
Islam has had ongoing conflicts with Judaism, Christianity, Hinduism, Buddhism, Zoroastrianism, Baha'i, and Sikhism. Is there even ONE religion with whom Islam has had relatively peacefully relations ? I also cannot think of any other religion that tells its followers to kill the non-believers.
Can you ?
You sound like a lad, so I'll be patient with you.
Can you tell me why Malaysia and Indonesia - which are Muslim countries - do NOT want the Rohingyas to immigrate into their countries ?
My boy, it isn't just the Hindus and the Buddhists and the Christians and the Jews who are anti-Muslims. Even some Muslims don't want other Muslims around... and for good reason, too.
Got a beef with that ? Write to the Malaysian and Indonesian governments and condemn them for not letting the Rohingyas into their borders. As easy as all that.
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O villain, villain, smiling, damnèd villain!
My tables—meet it is I set it down
That one may smile, and smile, and be a villain.
At least I'm sure it may be so in "Denmark".
-- Hamlet, 1.5.113-116
On tv they are blaming the Muslims (ISIS).
ISIS probably was behind it or had a heavy hand in it.
But not all who took part were muslims and foreigners.
You can lash out and aid terrorist without supporting their core beliefs.
Do you have any evidence that there were non-Muslims involved?
It's being reported by the BBC and other outlets.
There is no proof yet that all involved are muslims and of middle eastern origin.
You literally are jumping to conclusions that all involved were all muslims.
Only two shooter are identified.
One is a French man born in the suburbs of Paris was 29, with a criminal record with no history of religious based activities.
The other was Syrian born 35 year old who was probably muslim.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34824354
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You sound like a lad, so I'll be patient with you.
Can you tell me why Malaysia and Indonesia - which are Muslim countries - do NOT want the Rohingyas to immigrate into their countries ?
My boy, it isn't just the Hindus and the Buddhists and the Christians and the Jews who are anti-Muslims. Even some Muslims don't want other Muslims around... and for good reason, too.
Got a beef with that ? Write to the Malaysian and Indonesian governments and condemn them for not letting the Rohingyas into their borders. As easy as all that.
why should they HAVE TO flee to malaysia and indonesia...? why can't the buddhists in burma just treat them with respect and stop massacring them and raping their women? are you suggesting this persecution is justified??? wow... just... wow...
What the Cable News Network knows so far:
http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/13/europe/pa ... index.html
Timeline of the attacks:
http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/14/world/wha ... index.html
What National Public Radio knows so far:
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/ ... -right-now
33 pictures of how the world is responding to the attacks:
http://www.npr.org/2015/11/14/456045436 ... is-attacks
The "Peace for Paris" symbol:
http://www.npr.org/2015/11/14/456022682 ... solidarity
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Please.
You hardly hear of civil violence against Muslims in Western Europe (and any that happens is of a minuscule scale compared to the terrorist attacks).
There's no reason to assume that will change.
You're both wrong!
It's the Amish.
'Tain't funny McGee! Nothing in this f!cking thread is funny, or even humorous. You're all a bunch of neo-Nazis for even making light of this latest tragedy.
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I was going to post something imflammatory, but considering the poster, it's not worth the time or the misery. Too bad there's not a functioning ignore function on WP.
Not funny? In Murder on the Orient Express, they all did it. Only the writer escaped having their guilt exposed.
France declared war on Germany, WWI, to block German Turkish links, and after fighting Germany to a standstill, joined the British in breaking up the Ottoman Empire and reducing the parts to slave colonies. 1917 was not the start of European invasion.
The British wanted the Suez Canal, and oil had been discovered in 1912, that belonged to someone else. They wanted it, so World War One was an intentional homicide. The British wanted a direct route to bring military force against India, who grew cotton which was shipped to England to be spun and woven, then shipped back to India as a monopoly. India was also forbidden to make salt. Another monopoly, and they were forced to produce Opium to be sold at gun point in China. This is why the Queen is rich, she had a monopoly in blood, oil, and dope pushing.
The British Motto, "We have the Maxim Gun, they do not."
The result was breaking the Middle East into British and French Mandates, a term meaning self elected and having the most firepower. Old, broad, deep rooted cultures were destroyed, partitioned, and cut out of economic life and trade. Government was done in English and French. Some areas, the French in Algeria, had been 265 years of occupation and rule as slaves. The Algeria War of Liberation was long and hard, the French murdered millions.
The German recovery and the economic miracle of National Socialism offered a new model for slave colonies to become self supporting, self ruling, and free of parasitic Empires. So France and Britain declared war on Germany again. World War Two was against self elected world rulers, and for freedom for everyone else.
Algeria and Viet Nam took a while longer than most, but freedom came, except for the last European Colony created at the end of WWII, the Mandate of Palestine, where the British started a new colony.
The Great Powers Game formed the United Nations, and declared that none of the borders they had drawn could be changed.
Guns were supplied, governments set up to continue economic control.
Every effort to link the area was fought. The long lived Turkish Empire had a common language, money, laws, and open trade. All efforts to revive a pan Arabic common market and an Arabic Union of Nations was fought.
This left nothing but religion as a unifying force. That is why religion is the leading force today.
The government the great powers are trying to overthrow, Syria, is National Socialism. So were Iraq, Libya, who with Iran, were going to sell oil for Euros, Gold, what have you. The Saudis price oil in dollars for all, so the dollar is supported. They also fund religion, and terrorist.
It was Saudis at the World Trade Towers, Osama in Afghanistan leading people back a thousand years to fight Russian economic development. Afghanistan is one of the largest mineral deposits on earth, and the British lost two wars trying to recover the Queens lost mines.
Parasitic Empires want the natural resources, and the people have only religion.
The West has little religion, and even the Crusades were about loot and booty. They have under estimated the power of religion, where there is no other choice. Algeria and Viet Nam had two choices, die fighting, or win. A lot of people died over twenty-five years before they won. They did not have the Banks and Factories, the loot from the world, they had only blood and faith in their cause. They were going to die anyway, and freeing their people was a worthy cause.
India, China, Islam, if you killed a hundred thousand a day, their population would never decrease. WWI and The Spanish Flu killed a hundred million, and world population went up. WWII killed another hundred million and world population went up. A year and a half of bombing ISIS, maybe 10,000 died. 30,000 joined, this is not a war that can be won.
In 1960 very few Islamic girls wore the head scarf, they wore makeup and tight jeans, they went to school, university, and got good jobs. Sure, everyone was Islamic, like all Americans are Christian. Our most devout go to church on Christmas and Easter, less devout for weddings, funerals, and most have been in a church once in the last ten years.
The rise of Militant Islam was the only path open to social unity. Sure, some people say things like Homosexuals in San Francisco cause tornados, and expect Jesus to return any day, but those are ours. We also have followers of Satan, and Mormons. A third of our population is on happy pills. They should not drive, operate machinery, or vote.
After Algeria, millions dead, there was a pause, where there was hope, before we bombed Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, which caused a religious revival, as they gathered often for funerals. Obama has been droning people in another half dozen countries.
We are killing people who are protesting us killing people. They protest by killing people. They are getting good at it.
Just an odd thought, we could just leave them alone.
You're both wrong!
It's the Amish.
'Tain't funny McGee! Nothing in this f!cking thread is funny, or even humorous. You're all a bunch of neo-Nazis for even making light of this latest tragedy.
Moderator: Please invoke Godwin's law, NOW, AND LOCK THIS THREAD!! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
Sieg heil
I was going to post something imflammatory, but considering the poster, it's not worth the time or the misery. Too bad there's not a functioning ignore function on WP.
Not funny? In Murder on the Orient Express, they all did it. Only the writer escaped having their guilt exposed.
France declared war on Germany, WWI, to block German Turkish links, and after fighting Germany to a standstill, joined the British in breaking up the Ottoman Empire and reducing the parts to slave colonies. 1917 was not the start of European invasion.
The British wanted the Suez Canal, and oil had been discovered in 1912, that belonged to someone else. They wanted it, so World War One was an intentional homicide. The British wanted a direct route to bring military force against India, who grew cotton which was shipped to England to be spun and woven, then shipped back to India as a monopoly. India was also forbidden to make salt. Another monopoly, and they were forced to produce Opium to be sold at gun point in China. This is why the Queen is rich, she had a monopoly in blood, oil, and dope pushing.
The British Motto, "We have the Maxim Gun, they do not."
The result was breaking the Middle East into British and French Mandates, a term meaning self elected and having the most firepower. Old, broad, deep rooted cultures were destroyed, partitioned, and cut out of economic life and trade. Government was done in English and French. Some areas, the French in Algeria, had been 265 years of occupation and rule as slaves. The Algeria War of Liberation was long and hard, the French murdered millions.
The German recovery and the economic miracle of National Socialism offered a new model for slave colonies to become self supporting, self ruling, and free of parasitic Empires. So France and Britain declared war on Germany again. World War Two was against self elected world rulers, and for freedom for everyone else.
Algeria and Viet Nam took a while longer than most, but freedom came, except for the last European Colony created at the end of WWII, the Mandate of Palestine, where the British started a new colony.
The Great Powers Game formed the United Nations, and declared that none of the borders they had drawn could be changed.
Guns were supplied, governments set up to continue economic control.
Every effort to link the area was fought. The long lived Turkish Empire had a common language, money, laws, and open trade. All efforts to revive a pan Arabic common market and an Arabic Union of Nations was fought.
This left nothing but religion as a unifying force. That is why religion is the leading force today.
The government the great powers are trying to overthrow, Syria, is National Socialism. So were Iraq, Libya, who with Iran, were going to sell oil for Euros, Gold, what have you. The Saudis price oil in dollars for all, so the dollar is supported. They also fund religion, and terrorist.
It was Saudis at the World Trade Towers, Osama in Afghanistan leading people back a thousand years to fight Russian economic development. Afghanistan is one of the largest mineral deposits on earth, and the British lost two wars trying to recover the Queens lost mines.
Parasitic Empires want the natural resources, and the people have only religion.
The West has little religion, and even the Crusades were about loot and booty. They have under estimated the power of religion, where there is no other choice. Algeria and Viet Nam had two choices, die fighting, or win. A lot of people died over twenty-five years before they won. They did not have the Banks and Factories, the loot from the world, they had only blood and faith in their cause. They were going to die anyway, and freeing their people was a worthy cause.
India, China, Islam, if you killed a hundred thousand a day, their population would never decrease. WWI and The Spanish Flu killed a hundred million, and world population went up. WWII killed another hundred million and world population went up. A year and a half of bombing ISIS, maybe 10,000 died. 30,000 joined, this is not a war that can be won.
In 1960 very few Islamic girls wore the head scarf, they wore makeup and tight jeans, they went to school, university, and got good jobs. Sure, everyone was Islamic, like all Americans are Christian. Our most devout go to church on Christmas and Easter, less devout for weddings, funerals, and most have been in a church once in the last ten years.
The rise of Militant Islam was the only path open to social unity. Sure, some people say things like Homosexuals in San Francisco cause tornados, and expect Jesus to return any day, but those are ours. We also have followers of Satan, and Mormons. A third of our population is on happy pills. They should not drive, operate machinery, or vote.
After Algeria, millions dead, there was a pause, where there was hope, before we bombed Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, which caused a religious revival, as they gathered often for funerals. Obama has been droning people in another half dozen countries.
We are killing people who are protesting us killing people. They protest by killing people. They are getting good at it.
Just an odd thought, we could just leave them alone.
It's Saturday evening, after all, and alcohol must flow like water where you are, Inventor.
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O villain, villain, smiling, damnèd villain!
My tables—meet it is I set it down
That one may smile, and smile, and be a villain.
At least I'm sure it may be so in "Denmark".
-- Hamlet, 1.5.113-116
United States has no interest in the middle east.
All you have to do is to stop giving Israel 7 million USD every day in foreign aid and let them fight their war themselves. Expose AIPAC as a criminal lobby, charge Israel for war crimes. Simple.
That's literally all it takes! No more foreign aid, no more warmongering = no more refugees!
We in Europe surely would like a break from the refugees who are angry at us for U.S and Israeli warmongering.
Our governments have been signed up against our will for NATO, EU and UN mafia to blackmail us into participating in these slaughterings disguised as "peacekeeping" or "intervention".
Then the fallout of the conflict, angry middle easteners, come here and give us the punishment.
It ought to make you angry. Very, very angry!
All you have to do is to stop giving Israel 7 million USD every day in foreign aid and let them fight their war themselves. Expose AIPAC as a criminal lobby, charge Israel for war crimes. Simple.
That's literally all it takes! No more foreign aid, no more warmongering = no more refugees!
I used to advocate letting them fight it out among themselves and keeping all outside help away.
No more.
The way they are exporting terrorism to other countries is far too much to take. The terrorists must be soundly defeated.
By the way, how much are those refugees really concerned about Israel? I suspect that it is largely a theoretical enemy. It's not Israel they are running away from but other Muslims.
All you have to do is to stop giving Israel 7 million USD every day in foreign aid and let them fight their war themselves. Expose AIPAC as a criminal lobby, charge Israel for war crimes. Simple.
That's literally all it takes! No more foreign aid, no more warmongering = no more refugees!
Curiouser and curiouser. America gives Israel 7 MILLION USD per day in "aid" ? Really ?
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O villain, villain, smiling, damnèd villain!
My tables—meet it is I set it down
That one may smile, and smile, and be a villain.
At least I'm sure it may be so in "Denmark".
-- Hamlet, 1.5.113-116
All you have to do is to stop giving Israel 7 million USD every day in foreign aid and let them fight their war themselves. Expose AIPAC as a criminal lobby, charge Israel for war crimes. Simple.
That's literally all it takes! No more foreign aid, no more warmongering = no more refugees!
Curiouser and curiouser. America gives Israel 7 MILLION USD per day in "aid" ? Really ?
You're both wrong!
It's the Amish.
'Tain't funny McGee! Nothing in this f!cking thread is funny, or even humorous. You're all a bunch of neo-Nazis for even making light of this latest tragedy.
Moderator: Please invoke Godwin's law, NOW, AND LOCK THIS THREAD!! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
Sieg heil
I was going to post something imflammatory, but considering the poster, it's not worth the time or the misery. Too bad there's not a functioning ignore function on WP.
You know you'd miss me.
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